Anyone here a Muslim? If so question for you...

[loramin]

There is no one "Muslim" faith: Islam, like Christianity, has many different variations. Asking what Muslims believe is like asking "what do Christians think about ___?"

Unless you ask something really basic (ie. "was Jesus the son of God") you'll get a different answer from a Mormon than from an Episcopalian than from a Lutheran than from a Catholic than from a ...

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no one "Muslim" faith: Islam, like Christianity, has many different variations. Asking what Muslims believe is like asking "what do Christians think about ___?"

Unless you ask something really basic (ie. "was Jesus the son of God") you'll get a different answer from a Mormon than from an Episcopalian than from a Lutheran than from a Catholic than from a ...

What this guy said.

[Buzzed Killer]

Originally Posted by Peatree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If so I'd love an answer to this simple yes or no question. "Can a Muslim peacefully co-exist w/ someone of a different faith - yes or no?"

If you asked that same question 1000 years ago about your own faith, the answer would be absolutely not.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades (Normally don't site wiki, buts its ez ATM)

A lot more brainwashing has happened since though.

[Glenzig_]

oh wow what a student of history! so smart he joined the enlisted ranks of the slaves and now drops science on an elf sim board!!!

ROR here hateraid this is what i have planned for you buddy

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[katrik]

I think you're confusing extremists with the religion as a whole. Islamic state/Al'Qaeda do not represent the faith justly at all. Don't hate culture, don't confuse it with extremism. My humble faggot opinion.

[Dillian]

Ouch Glenzig just ouch. but i rofled at it. im surprised super spigger aka hateraid hasnt responded yet.

[Swish]

Bosnian muslims have been the beneficiaries of a lot of foreign investment from places like Saudi Arabia and Iran over the last 10 years or so to build some decadent looking mosques... they're doing okay. There'll always be an undercurrent of hated there though.

The Serbs main problems at the moment is that there are an ever growing amount of Albanians crossing the border and living in Serbia.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bosnian muslims have been the beneficiaries of a lot of foreign investment from places like Saudi Arabia and Iran over the last 10 years or so to build some decadent looking mosques... they're doing okay. There'll always be an undercurrent of hated there though.

The Serbs main problems at the moment is that there are an ever growing amount of Albanians crossing the border and living in Serbia.

I should have mentioned above that I've only just scratched the surface -- i.e. total noob about this subject. Back when it happened I never heard much about it (didn't care about politics or watching the news, other countries and their conflicts, etc) so now I'm trying to learn more about it on my own. I haven't quite gotten to the years since the conflict ended but it's good that they're doing reasonably well now.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I should have mentioned above that I've only just scratched the surface -- i.e. total noob about this subject. Back when it happened I never heard much about it (didn't care about politics or watching the news, other countries and their conflicts, etc) so now I'm trying to learn more about it on my own. I haven't quite gotten to the years since the conflict ended but it's good that they're doing reasonably well now.

Bosnians enjoyed a priveleged status, along with Albanians, in the ottoman millet system. Anyway, Bosnians, Albanians, and Crimean Tatars enslaved millions of Christian Slavs over the centuries. The Serbs took vengeance and all of a sudden they were the evil ones.

Doesn't excuse it, just saying it's not as simplistic as "Serbs evil Bosnians victims"...
Wver wonder how seemingly modern nations like France and Germany could fight WW2? I get it, Germany was nationalistic and in dire economic straits, but you can't simply create pervasive hatred like the Nazis did without something inherent in the culture. Same thing in the Balkans. The Catholics, Serbs, and muslims had been treating each other like shit for centuries... That doesn't end because Tito says so

As for you Peatree, merry Christmas. My father was raised muslim and he isn't violent, but he also is a lapsed Shia at best... I can only speak for iran, but anyone in that country that is an actual devout Muslim is looked upon with suspicion by the rest of the population (the majority), since Islam is looked upon as a tool of repression. I don't think nearly all muslims are evil. But of all the religions I would choose to belong to, I thibk islam would be the last, behind anime worship and cannibalism

Finally, Baha'is aren't hippies dude. The religion started as a revival of faith in God during a period when Shia Iran was becoming influenced by secular (relatively) britain. Maybe america Baha'is are that way, but I assure you the founding populations aren't. We're conservative... I voted Romney

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066

Bosnians enjoyed a priveleged status, along with Albanians, in the ottoman millet system. Anyway, Bosnians, Albanians, and Crimean Tatars enslaved millions of Christian Slavs over the centuries. The Serbs took vengeance and all of a sudden they were the evil ones.

I'm having a real problem with the idea of any group committing systematic and vengeful acts of mass rape and genocide against their historical enemies because of enslavement and horrible treatment that happened centuries ago. Rhetorically speaking, by that logic, is it now acceptable or reasonable if native americans and black people started raping and slaughtering white people in the USA to avenge their ancestors? (I know you wouldn't think that way, just so you know. I've read enough of your posts regarding religion and faith to know better.)

In my opinion, nothing could possibly make that level of violence acceptable or justifiable. I mean holy shit -- the horror that human beings are capable of inflicting on each other is just incredible...

If I ever lose my compassion or humanity to the point where I don't even blink an eye at the idea of committing the kind of genocidal violence that I've been reading about, I just wouldn't see any point in continuing to live anymore. I still don't know if I believe in God or not, but if he does exist I don't understand how he hasn't given up and wiped us all out by now.