Aaryonar

[Byrjun]

I'm pretty sure that Aaryonar still has the "fake" AE to this day. Most people saw it as sort of a trick to the fight that you had to learn as opposed to a bug.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure that Aaryonar still has the "fake" AE to this day. Most people saw it as sort of a trick to the fight that you had to learn as opposed to a bug.

Bug and "trick to the fight" aren't mutually exclusive.

Are you saying that he has a second "fake" AE cast or that it is the same cast that hits people in line of sight as well as those out of line of sight?

Like Alunova said, it doesn't make sense how the fake portion can be implemented in the current spell/line of sight implementation without major reworking of the code.

[Nirgon]

if you chain activate an instacast item to force an update with the server, you will see your manabar go up

o man nostalgia there

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, that's still worthless information for a comparison. What MR debuffs was she usually getting hit with when I raided her back in classic? Who knows. We used Malo/Tash/OOS on beta, maybe we weren't OOSing her back on live. Maybe we were.

There's still the issue that bard debuffs/buffs do not stack like they did on Live. Bard tashing (via orb of tishan) would stack with ENC tash for further MR debuffing. As far as I know, that is not implemented (correctly) on P99.

[wycca]

Aary is super gimp without that gate, should at least dial up the MR imo.

Also, Doz was still gating last I knew, really funky stuff - gating right when by spawn even. Hopefully it got fixed, havent been back for awhile.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bug and "trick to the fight" aren't mutually exclusive.

Are you saying that he has a second "fake" AE cast or that it is the same cast that hits people in line of sight as well as those out of line of sight?

Like Alunova said, it doesn't make sense how the fake portion can be implemented in the current spell/line of sight implementation without major reworking of the code.

I'm pretty sure there were 2 AEs with the same name. One was "real" and could be blocked by LOS, the other ignored LOS and would hit clerics and appear to drain mana but as soon as you clicked an instant clicky it would disappear and your mana would return.

The "real" AE would overwrite the "fake" AE so if you had some mana loss from the fake AE and then got hit by the real AE that mana would be lost permanently, so it did add a bit of difficulty / required attention to what was going on during the fight.

Aaryonar felt pretty accurate, shrug. This server is more about classic accuracy than artificially inflating difficulty. I discussed my opinion on the accuracy of the actual encounter already, though.

Dozekar was gating when we did him recently, I'm sure that's still the case. Devs need to remove gate on a bunch of these mobs, and look into the weird aggro link associated with some mobs that creates unclassic pulling situations.

Zlandicar and Velketor also gate but I'm not sure if that's accurate or not because we always killed them on their spawn points on live.

[Alunova]

Many of the dragons have strong evidence of gate usage before they were rooted and acquired cotz. I'm not suggesting all did, but I know several dragons and trash NPCs should for now.

I'm removing gate from aary because I remember fighting him away from his spawn point, but will need evidence on each of the others from pre-rooted era.

[Heebee]

Originally Posted by Alunova [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many of the dragons have strong evidence of gate usage before they were rooted and acquired cotz. I'm not suggesting all did, but I know several dragons and trash NPCs should for now.

Which NToV dragons do you believe should gate in the pre-root era?

As for trash, the blue and glimmer drakes definitely did gate.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Alunova [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many of the dragons have strong evidence of gate usage before they were rooted and acquired cotz. I'm not suggesting all did, but I know several dragons and trash NPCs should for now.

I'm removing gate from aary because I remember fighting him away from his spawn point, but will need evidence on each of the others from pre-rooted era.

Aaryonar and Eashen were never perma rooted (even when most of ToV became perma rooted), and they never had the ability to gate.

Those are the only ones I've mentioned so far, we need to test more NToV.

Not sure how I provide evidence that Eashen didn't do something, is there evidence that he would gate?

[Alunova]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how I provide evidence that Eashen didn't do something, is there evidence that he would gate?

I know those two were not rooted, but there were sweeping changes done at the same time. Where did you provide evidence that Eashen should not gate? I may have missed it.