Why?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.400monkeys.com/God/

This faq should answer all your questions.

Hahahah! Wasn't expecting that. Good one.

[Danth]

I don't understand why self-described atheists argue about religion. I don't believe in nor care about UFO's or little green men, and as such I don't argue about those things on internet web sites. You can consider yourself an atheist as far as traditional religions are concerned without necessarily disavowing the possibility of higher forms of intelligence or life beyond that which science can presently explain.


Danth

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand why self-described atheists argue about religion. I don't believe in nor care about UFO's or little green men, and as such I don't argue about those things on internet web sites. You can consider yourself an atheist as far as traditional religions are concerned without necessarily disavowing the possibility of higher forms of intelligence or life beyond that which science can presently explain.


Danth

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of animosity on both sides that make people really foam at each other. One block to me on the road to atheism is that 'Atheists' seem to be very hypocritical, hysterically denying that any god exists, while also claiming reason to be on their side. They don't seem to ( usually, see the above post ) realize that their position is just as faith based as a fundamental religious person's is.

[Econ]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of animosity on both sides that make people really foam at each other. One block to me on the road to atheism is that 'Atheists' seem to be very hypocritical, hysterically denying that any god exists, while also claiming reason to be on their side. They don't seem to ( usually, see the above post ) realize that their position is just as faith based as a fundamental religious person's is.

So the position that their is absolutely zero factual evidence supporting the existence of an invisible flying man in the sky is purely based on faith alone.
Right.

[Archalen]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of animosity on both sides that make people really foam at each other. One block to me on the road to atheism is that 'Atheists' seem to be very hypocritical, hysterically denying that any god exists, while also claiming reason to be on their side. They don't seem to ( usually, see the above post ) realize that their position is just as faith based as a fundamental religious person's is.

Nah man, there are hundreds of things I don't believe in. Does it really take faith to not believe the veracity of the thousands of legends and myths we are told over a lifetime? I don't give ghosts, gods, monsters, witches etc. differing levels of respect.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah man, there are hundreds of things I don't believe in. Does it really take faith to not believe the veracity of the thousands of legends and myths we are told over a lifetime? I don't give ghosts, gods, monsters, witches etc. differing levels of respect.

That's an interesting question, does it take faith *NOT* to believe in something? ..I guess not. It takes faith to deny the possibility of something though, unless there is scientific evidence. But really I'm out on a limb there too, because science itself really doesn't know anything for sure, and will happily tell you so.

[fadetree]

Nope. Unfounded argument from authority. Next.

[Faron]

I don't *know* there isn't a god, just like I don't *know* that there isn't a race of flying mushroom people live in the upper atmosphere of Jupiter and control everything on Earth through the use of a magical cabbage given to them by the ghost of Thomas Jefferson.

fence-sitting bullshit.

[Plur]

I too am ashamed to admit that I was once an Atheist. Everyone knows that a magical creature dictates what happens in nature. This creature is hard to accept as real, but we must have faith that he is going to lead us to the magical beer volcano that is littered with strippers.
I too denounced god, then one day he reached down from the heavens and touched me with his noodly appendage. I saw with my own eyes his enormous balls, and he promised me salvation at the great beer volcano.
All hail the flying spaghetti monster.

[fadetree]

But isn't that what 'Atheist' means? Categorical denial of any god or gods? Since Atheists appeal to reason and science all the time, and criticize the religious crazies all the time, I thought there might be a better argument than 'well, there just isn't'.

I don't understand the fence remark, atheism is hardly sitting on the fence. That'd be agnosticism.