Is a leaf or plant a hard drugs?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Estolcles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything causes Cancer.

Except weed.

Tell that to Bob Marley.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's potentially poisonous, or potentially toxic. It's kind of a misuse of the word to say water is simply poisonous, though. We get it, but let's not abuse the English language here - everyone knows when we say something is "poisonous" or "toxic", we mean when it's taken in normal and non-excessive doses.

So if someone shot you, you were attacked with a "potentially lethal weapon"? No. Every glass of water you drink is laced with dihydrogen monoxide, a deadly poison.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone shot you, you were attacked with a "potentially lethal weapon"? No. Every glass of water you drink is laced with dihydrogen monoxide, a deadly poison.

Toxicity is the degree to which a substance can damage an organism. Toxicity can refer to the effect on a whole organism, such as an animal, bacterium, or plant, as well as the effect on a substructure of the organism, such as a cell (cytotoxicity) or an organ such as the liver (hepatotoxicity). By extension, the word may be metaphorically used to describe toxic effects on larger and more complex groups, such as the family unit or society at large.

A central concept of toxicology is that effects are dose-dependent; even water can lead to water intoxication when taken in too high a dose, whereas for even a very toxic substance such as snake venom there is a dose below which there is no detectable toxic effect.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone shot you, you were attacked with a "potentially lethal weapon"?

Yes. Not everyone dies from a gunshot wound - it's potentially lethal, but I'm not going to correct someone that refers to a firearm as simply a lethal weapon.

Anything can kill you in excessive doses. Oxygen can kill you, but I'm not going to say it's poisonous. Same with water. If you want to go around calling literally everything poisonous, then by all means go right ahead.

[Cecily]

Exactly, water is poisonous.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly, water is poisonous.

Toxicity.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to go around calling literally everything poisonous, then by all means go right ahead.

It is!

[YeOldeLordJiggz]

Yup, just chemicals, and concentration, if you think its a medicine, maybe too much of it is a poison.

Cocaine, tobacco, and herroin can be bad for you, but in reality do just as much or less damage then sugar, fat, or salt.

So does thinking it is bad for you really make it much worse?

Does thinking it isn't not?

sugar, caffeine, fat, salt, cocaine, tobacco, herroin, marijuana, water, air, protein, vitamins, minerals, opium, nicotine, .....all chemicals, what is a chemical, but a combination of atoms. What determines whether it is good or bad for you is what it will do to you when you have too little or too much of it.

sorry if my inaccurate whether those are exactly defined as chemicals, but all matter contains them so...

[paulgiamatti]

It's just an overstatement, it's silly. I mean, we should be careful not to be too euphemistic, but this is taking that line of thought too far. Like I said, we get it - but we're not living in a chemistry lab. Let's use words properly.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Jesus Christ, thought I was bored enough for RnF today and this thread proved me wrong. Tedious bitches...