Is a leaf or plant a hard drugs?

[FoxxHound]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We shouldn't forget the tragedies that occur because of alcohol consumption, which I think is worse than doing most drugs. How many perfectly good pizzas are tortured for hours in drunk people's ovens?

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Ugh. One of my old roommates did that with nuggets and fries. Destroyed the fuck out of my pan. Smell about killed my sorry ass too!

[Cecily]

That's... poison. Gogo wikipedia: In the context of biology, poisons are substances that cause disturbances to organisms,[1] usually by chemical reaction or other activity on the molecular scale, when a sufficient quantity is absorbed by an organism.

Water is poisonous.

[paulgiamatti]

It's potentially poisonous, or potentially toxic. It's kind of a misuse of the word to say water is simply poisonous, though. We get it, but let's not abuse the English language here - everyone knows when we say something is "poisonous" or "toxic", we mean when it's taken in normal and non-excessive doses.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's potentially poisonous, or potentially toxic. It's kind of a misuse of the word to say water is simply poisonous, though. We get it, but let's not abuse the English language here - everyone knows when we say something is "poisonous" or "toxic", we mean when it's taken in normal and non-excessive doses.

So if someone shot you, you were attacked with a "potentially lethal weapon"? No. Every glass of water you drink is laced with dihydrogen monoxide, a deadly poison.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone shot you, you were attacked with a "potentially lethal weapon"? No. Every glass of water you drink is laced with dihydrogen monoxide, a deadly poison.

Toxicity is the degree to which a substance can damage an organism. Toxicity can refer to the effect on a whole organism, such as an animal, bacterium, or plant, as well as the effect on a substructure of the organism, such as a cell (cytotoxicity) or an organ such as the liver (hepatotoxicity). By extension, the word may be metaphorically used to describe toxic effects on larger and more complex groups, such as the family unit or society at large.

A central concept of toxicology is that effects are dose-dependent; even water can lead to water intoxication when taken in too high a dose, whereas for even a very toxic substance such as snake venom there is a dose below which there is no detectable toxic effect.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone shot you, you were attacked with a "potentially lethal weapon"?

Yes. Not everyone dies from a gunshot wound - it's potentially lethal, but I'm not going to correct someone that refers to a firearm as simply a lethal weapon.

Anything can kill you in excessive doses. Oxygen can kill you, but I'm not going to say it's poisonous. Same with water. If you want to go around calling literally everything poisonous, then by all means go right ahead.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to go around calling literally everything poisonous, then by all means go right ahead.

It is!

[Cecily]

Exactly, water is poisonous.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly, water is poisonous.

Toxicity.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly, water is poisonous.

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