we should probably just host our own pvp events dont need GM's for that

[Heyitsme]

You guys need to look at the events that went down on Halloween in 2001 on Rallos and emulate that.

- Undead dragon in Rathe, hundreds of dead bodies everywhere as players fight over it

- Event mobs in EK, event mobs in WC

Hint: GMs not interfering and letting players decide if they want to cooperate or fight over the mobs AKA a sandbox

[Heyitsme]

Theres a way to run events organically where players get to decide what to do, not being threathened with bans if they make the wrong choice.

Im sure there was alot of bitching for nothing, im not trying to defend that, but that point is sort of bulletproof, dont fuck with the sandbox.

Ghost around a zone and random pop a named mob in nooby zones when u see a couple of noobs grouping before any vets has a chance to ruin the event, shit like that, dont heavy hand GMing.

[Derubael]

Heyitsme, you do realize that PvP was only stopped so I could distribute loot, right?

The mob was already dead. I didn't want people fighting while I tried to sort through who was present (and allowed to roll) and who wasn't.

Do I need to make a thread about this, because people keep bringing it up.

[Heyitsme]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heyitsme, you do realize that PvP was only stopped so I could distribute loot, right?

The mob was already dead. I didn't want people fighting while I tried to sort through who was present (and allowed to roll) and who wasn't.

Do I need to make a thread about this, because people keep bringing it up.

Im honestly trying to be constructive, maybe if you cant have mobs drop the items themselves, then think of some other way of doing this where at no point you are forced to tell people not to pvp.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Heyitsme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im honestly trying to be constructive, maybe if you cant have mobs drop the items themselves, then think of some other way of doing this where at no point you are forced to tell people not to pvp.

We've tried that on red and blue - it doesn't work. Someone just ninja-loots the items and we can't track them because they're on a spawned NPC that doesn't record to the database.

[Heyitsme]

I dont see why you would feel the need to regulate that, if a player ninja loots it, then let the community dish out the punishment. If nobody trusts anyone enough to engage, feeling a ninja loot will be the outcome, let the mob sit there unkilled, that will be the course the sandbox is taking.

I dont know, any scenario pretty much to me is better than threathening people who keep killin each other with bans.

Like if you had one really nice item for that event, instead of having it on that one mob, instead have a bunch of spawns pop over the course of 2 hours, let players fight over them and have the item be a random spawn on one of those mobs, things like that.

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What should happen, is people who are disruptive during gm events, have all their accounts perma-banned.

You guys are starting to motivate me to come help GM on red.

GM events mean ... Free Pixels. You don't want a chance? Don't go.

I am pretty sure GMs wont want to run you more events and your only option is to run your own.

H

Agreed with this, I wasn't there but if Azrael were slaughtering people while the GM event said the only way to kill cazic thule was to work together than I don't get why people can't just work together. I'm very sure Derubael put some good ass loot on those mobs like he did with Inny on that halloween event.

GM events are great when legit rewards are given out, I don't understand some of my guildmates mind sets sometimes.