Necros in Velius

[Splorf22]

I don't think Necros will be soloing much that counts in Velious. But then I don't think anyone will be soloing much that counts. Most of the mobs that count are L60ish with annoying abilities and small groups will be the name of the game. Shamans will have the ability to solo Lodizal, but I predict there will be 40 people on his spawn point jav spamming, so if they do win the FTE lottery they'll want to bring a melee to be 100% sure of victory.

Also, if you think bring 15 mana/tick to a raid is valuable, how about you roll a bard? A bard playing Cassindra's can bring 70 mana/tick and that stacks with everything. Twitches are useful here and there, but they aren't a 'build my class around this' kind of thing.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feed wizards mana

Even with bane spells, 15 mana / tick -> 75 damage / tick -> 12 dps. Not so very impressive, is it?

[Daldaen]

Would love to know how Bards bring 70 mana a tick. Cause that is guaranteed a bug.

32 Mana Song is a Mana Feed
55 Mana Song is a Mana per Tick.

Pulsing for a single tic you get 13 mana per tick and 7 mana feed.

Instrument modifiers should have 0 effect on mana component of bard songs. They will amplify HP regen components on the 55 HP/Mana Regen song, but NOT the mana regen component.

[Splorf22]

7 * 2 * 5.

Necro twitch only works for one person; bard song works for the whole group. Really its strange math; I should have perhaps chosen 7 * 2 * 4 = 56 which is the absolute worst case (you have another bard singing Cantata, because your raid is all bards). Normally Bards can give ~20 mana/tick * 5 = 100 total.

[Daldaen]

Okay so you're talking entire group not single person. I was about to have to BugQuest it...

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even with bane spells, 15 mana / tick -> 75 damage / tick -> 12 dps. Not so very impressive, is it?

You are playing dumb... you know how bursting a raid targets works son. Don't gimme that shit.

Necro feeding patch heals with current healing exploit + mana giver is pretty good.

Should be able to tap most Velious targets to stay alive also. So there's a damage source that doesn't require its own heals.... well I guess nothing will land here to damage anyone with people in 400+ resists with bards/buffs... but that's another matter.

[Daldaen]

It will be a glorious day when 255 caps are put in place.

[Nirgon]

if > 255 -> 255


But more to the point necros can tap most Velious mobs except the ones I've parsed to be immune to lure of lightning, so that will make them pretty worth while.

If everyone is "immune" to everything aoe, necros will be pointless.


BTW Loraen, tested that bane spells don't even need belly cast (lures did on same targets). U jelly? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

The whole point of Velious is that you can't burst targets. Unless you are in a giant zerg and then who cares anyway. Don't get me wrong; I think Wizards will still be very good in Velious although not quite as good as they are now. I just think twitch is a very situational ability.

[Tecmos Deception]

No one would ever deny twitch is a very situational ability. But the OP did specifically ask about the situation in which necros are expected to twitch. As much as I like a discussion about what is "best," it's pretty dumb, honestly, to suggest the OP reroll bard so that he can mana pump in raids better when he just was asking about how necros fare in Velious. Lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]