Magician epic pet question

[Invoke]

I'm trying to understand some of the hatred for the Mage class. Is this an incorrect assessment?

Mage with Epic (or even without) can...

Solo with ease and farm plat about as good as anyone.

Fill the DPS roll in an exp group about as good as anyone.

Can struggle to provide DPS in the raid scene for reasons stated above. However CotH is needed/wanted enough to give Mages a seat at the table, even if their job is boring and specific.

If this is all correct then the Mage class seems fine. What am I missing?

[Velerin]

Recent fixes to pet agro finally made soloing fun again (can actually occasionally nuke rather than forced to chain) Also applies to duoing since pet can hold agro better.
Overall mages pretty good. Have to test which bosses can nuke and which you can't to decide whether you're nuking or feeding rods to healers/nukers.

The only thing that always sucked for mages is they are the only caster class that wasn't given any root spells (and unreliable earth pet root for 18 secs doesn't count).
Always carry around lots of root nets and pearls and you can do some fun stuff though.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Invoke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm trying to understand some of the hatred for the Mage class. Is this an incorrect assessment?

Mage with Epic (or even without) can...

Solo with ease and farm plat about as good as anyone.

Fill the DPS roll in an exp group about as good as anyone.

Can struggle to provide DPS in the raid scene for reasons stated above. However CotH is needed/wanted enough to give Mages a seat at the table, even if their job is boring and specific.

If this is all correct then the Mage class seems fine. What am I missing?

Difficulty of getting an epic pet...

Pretty much renders the debate useless. Epic mages are great.

[Invoke]

Originally Posted by Velerin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recent fixes to pet agro finally made soloing fun again (can actually occasionally nuke rather than forced to chain) Also applies to duoing since pet can hold agro better.
Overall mages pretty good. Have to test which bosses can nuke and which you can't to decide whether you're nuking or feeding rods to healers/nukers.

The only thing that always sucked for mages is they are the only caster class that wasn't given any root spells (and unreliable earth pet root for 18 secs doesn't count).
Always carry around lots of root nets and pearls and you can do some fun stuff though.

I forgot about the pet agro issues. When I started up a couple months ago I initially made an Enchanter instead of a Mage just because of this. Thankfully taunt was fixed but I wonder if the stigma from people trying to play a Mage during this time will linger.

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Difficulty of getting an epic pet...

Pretty much renders the debate useless. Epic mages are great.

Trying to do the Mage epic on live was depressing. I was stuck on getting that crown from Sky forever. Seems like everything on this server is sold as an MQ though. Are Mage epic MQs not available much on p99 and/or cost a shit load of plat compared to other epics? I've been curious about this...

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Invoke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I forgot about the pet agro issues. When I started up a couple months ago I initially made an Enchanter instead of a Mage just because of this. Thankfully taunt was fixed but I wonder if the stigma from people trying to play a Mage during this time will linger.



Trying to do the Mage epic on live was depressing. I was stuck on getting that crown from Sky forever. Seems like everything on this server is sold as an MQ though. Are Mage epic MQs not available much on p99 and/or cost a shit load of plat compared to other epics? I've been curious about this...

The bottleneck is the earth staff. I've seen the earth staff MQ as high as 800k and as low as 300k. Either way it's priced pretty far out of range and even then, only when it's available.

[Velerin]

Originally Posted by Invoke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trying to do the Mage epic on live was depressing. I was stuck on getting that crown from Sky forever. Seems like everything on this server is sold as an MQ though. Are Mage epic MQs not available much on p99 and/or cost a shit load of plat compared to other epics? I've been curious about this...

People farm sky everyday here so crowns are all over the place (on live post-velious that crown was a bitch since no one went to sky much). In this era the bottleneck is Mr. Inny and his staff.

[Cecily]

I don't think I've seen TMO kill any trash on isle 7 that I hadn't trained on them.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bottleneck is the earth staff. I've seen the earth staff MQ as high as 800k and as low as 300k. Either way it's priced pretty far out of range and even then, only when it's available.

Mage staff MQs don't exist

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage staff MQs don't exist

This. Especially with the raid rules change.

Now that 1/3rd of Innys go to Class R, less go to market from IB/TMO guild bank MQs.

Though... I don't think Earth staves drop for Class R guilds when Inny does get killed. It seems rigged.

[Tankdan]

It'll get a lot easier with Velious.. no longer need Inny as the staff will drop off a mini (Magi ptasa/maestro etc I think) instead. Not to mention a lot of Kunark raids won't be quite so poopsocked (they will be, but you wont have guilds grouped up and ready to port up before it spawns, etc)