Magician epic pet question

[diplo]

blue99 3rd/red99 2nd mage epic here and master of the elements.

you will have the most fun soloing/duoing/trioing money camps with your epic pet, at least that's where I got the most value from it. You can duo mostly anything on this server with a bp cleric or a torpor shaman pal. you can safely duo crypt with almost any healer type class and used to be able to duo fungi king prior to invis nerf; hell you still can if you can get a solo pull.

regarding raids, i feel like my pet is more of a nuisance than anything. only because you have to constantly be aware of pet aggro and need to have good pet control. if you're lazy or caught sleeping for a minute, enchanter's will get pretty annoyed with you.

regarding killing dragons, that is the only dps you're going to give. they'll hit and i've seen parses and have seen my pet plenty of times make the top 10 dmg output if there aren't a lot of rogues/monks.

if you enjoy farming, mage with epic is best option out there hands down.

[Invoke]

I'm trying to understand some of the hatred for the Mage class. Is this an incorrect assessment?

Mage with Epic (or even without) can...

Solo with ease and farm plat about as good as anyone.

Fill the DPS roll in an exp group about as good as anyone.

Can struggle to provide DPS in the raid scene for reasons stated above. However CotH is needed/wanted enough to give Mages a seat at the table, even if their job is boring and specific.

If this is all correct then the Mage class seems fine. What am I missing?

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Invoke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm trying to understand some of the hatred for the Mage class. Is this an incorrect assessment?

Mage with Epic (or even without) can...

Solo with ease and farm plat about as good as anyone.

Fill the DPS roll in an exp group about as good as anyone.

Can struggle to provide DPS in the raid scene for reasons stated above. However CotH is needed/wanted enough to give Mages a seat at the table, even if their job is boring and specific.

If this is all correct then the Mage class seems fine. What am I missing?

Difficulty of getting an epic pet...

Pretty much renders the debate useless. Epic mages are great.

[Invoke]

Originally Posted by Velerin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recent fixes to pet agro finally made soloing fun again (can actually occasionally nuke rather than forced to chain) Also applies to duoing since pet can hold agro better.
Overall mages pretty good. Have to test which bosses can nuke and which you can't to decide whether you're nuking or feeding rods to healers/nukers.

The only thing that always sucked for mages is they are the only caster class that wasn't given any root spells (and unreliable earth pet root for 18 secs doesn't count).
Always carry around lots of root nets and pearls and you can do some fun stuff though.

I forgot about the pet agro issues. When I started up a couple months ago I initially made an Enchanter instead of a Mage just because of this. Thankfully taunt was fixed but I wonder if the stigma from people trying to play a Mage during this time will linger.

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Difficulty of getting an epic pet...

Pretty much renders the debate useless. Epic mages are great.

Trying to do the Mage epic on live was depressing. I was stuck on getting that crown from Sky forever. Seems like everything on this server is sold as an MQ though. Are Mage epic MQs not available much on p99 and/or cost a shit load of plat compared to other epics? I've been curious about this...

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Invoke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I forgot about the pet agro issues. When I started up a couple months ago I initially made an Enchanter instead of a Mage just because of this. Thankfully taunt was fixed but I wonder if the stigma from people trying to play a Mage during this time will linger.



Trying to do the Mage epic on live was depressing. I was stuck on getting that crown from Sky forever. Seems like everything on this server is sold as an MQ though. Are Mage epic MQs not available much on p99 and/or cost a shit load of plat compared to other epics? I've been curious about this...

The bottleneck is the earth staff. I've seen the earth staff MQ as high as 800k and as low as 300k. Either way it's priced pretty far out of range and even then, only when it's available.

[Velerin]

Recent fixes to pet agro finally made soloing fun again (can actually occasionally nuke rather than forced to chain) Also applies to duoing since pet can hold agro better.
Overall mages pretty good. Have to test which bosses can nuke and which you can't to decide whether you're nuking or feeding rods to healers/nukers.

The only thing that always sucked for mages is they are the only caster class that wasn't given any root spells (and unreliable earth pet root for 18 secs doesn't count).
Always carry around lots of root nets and pearls and you can do some fun stuff though.

[Velerin]

Originally Posted by Invoke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trying to do the Mage epic on live was depressing. I was stuck on getting that crown from Sky forever. Seems like everything on this server is sold as an MQ though. Are Mage epic MQs not available much on p99 and/or cost a shit load of plat compared to other epics? I've been curious about this...

People farm sky everyday here so crowns are all over the place (on live post-velious that crown was a bitch since no one went to sky much). In this era the bottleneck is Mr. Inny and his staff.

[Cecily]

I don't think I've seen TMO kill any trash on isle 7 that I hadn't trained on them.

[Tankdan]

It'll get a lot easier with Velious.. no longer need Inny as the staff will drop off a mini (Magi ptasa/maestro etc I think) instead. Not to mention a lot of Kunark raids won't be quite so poopsocked (they will be, but you wont have guilds grouped up and ready to port up before it spawns, etc)

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It'll get a lot easier with Velious.. no longer need Inny as the staff will drop off a mini (Magi ptasa/maestro etc I think) instead.

Hate Revamp will be a good year(probably 2) after Velious launch.

Sorry