The New TMO

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yup... 50/50 class c and class r and we dont have to deal with you fucks anymore

You never dealt with us before...something along the lines of "it's not that we can't compete, we just don't want to so we'll wait until the look is handed out" iirc.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO clearly trying to circumvent the 2 person tracker rule by using unguilded persons, ban them all

Yeah, or that wasn't the case. There was no manipulation of rules here by TMO. There was no attempt to circumvent rules here by TMO. Someone needed to be replaced as a tracker and Flippie used one of his alts. Here are a few general guidelines to follow for people in the future.

1. If anyone from any guild at Fay has a question about him or his affiliation send the guy a tell and find out. This never occurred.

2. If they then have a problem or dispute with one of the 2 trackers there for TMO or an unguilded person getting FTE not having a guild tag then send a message to the officers of the guild and open up a line of communication about it.

I mean the Fay pull is a long pull. You have time to ask these questions and bring about these concerns. Instead one guild spent this time deciding to just KS the FTE and Ninja loot the dragon. Now it seems they then tried to entice another guild with loot off the dragon to support their actions.

[Puurty]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm surprised TMO just didn't use some of their Asgard alts to add more numbers... seems this unguilded strat and forum defense were scripted far in advance

If Asgard is a Tmo alt guild then why did they get FTE on our noble today? Wouldn't they have just let us kill it? Stop saying we are TMO's alt guild because we are NOT.

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm surprised TMO just didn't use some of their Asgard alts to add more numbers... seems this unguilded strat and forum defense were scripted far in advance

Yep, TMO's main pullers were not there because they were too busy playing their Asgard alts in sky, all 47 of them. Now you know why they had to use an untagged char to pull this round.

[Erydan Ouragan]

I don't get why being untagged matters [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at the name on the FTE message. Is he one of your guys? No? Then back off, simple as that.

[Daldaen]

Because using an I guilded person allows you to more easily circumvent the rule. Example:

TMO, IB have 1 player each tracking. And there are 20 unguilded players tracking. There can only be 1 FTEer, so whoever gets the FTE, if they are unguilded, you guild invite them real quick. And the other 19 unguilded just camp out.

You can't really prove association with the other 19 unguilded who camp out, so technically no one broke any rules.

Somewhat of a stretch but I don't see it beyond people having a few unguilded and one guilded tracker and if your unguilded get FTE, you just tag them.

Really though, the whole FTE business is retarded.


Outdoor dragons should be able to spawn at anywhere along their pathing nodes
Trackers who are in zone on pop shouldn't be able to FTE

Those two changes would help a bit with the dragons being engaged with autofire jav macros and people chain clicking for 15min.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get why being untagged matters [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at the name on the FTE message. Is he one of your guys? No? Then back off, simple as that.

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[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Puurty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Asgard is a Tmo alt guild then why did they get FTE on our noble today? Wouldn't they have just let us kill it? Stop saying we are TMO's alt guild because we are NOT.

But a TMO alt is a officer of your guild so explain that? Also, Hey TMO why dont you just tag your fucking pullers then there wouldnt be a issue. You know the guy you've so called had pulled multiple mobs that no one has ever seen before.....yeah. Your all a joke. You think you rule the server but everyone knows your just a bunch of douches save a few cool people.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But a TMO alt is a officer of your guild so explain that? Also, Hey TMO why dont you just tag your fucking pullers then there wouldnt be a issue. You know the guy you've so called had pulled multiple mobs that no one has ever seen before.....yeah. Your all a joke. You think you rule the server but everyone knows your just a bunch of douches save a few cool people.

How is this not getting through to you?

There was no new FTE message after Golden; your guild didn't have FTE.

That is all that matters, its fairly simple!

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because using an I guilded person allows you to more easily circumvent the rule. Example:

TMO, IB have 1 player each tracking. And there are 20 unguilded players tracking. There can only be 1 FTEer, so whoever gets the FTE, if they are unguilded, you guild invite them real quick. And the other 19 unguilded just camp out.

You can't really prove association with the other 19 unguilded who camp out, so technically no one broke any rules.

Somewhat of a stretch but I don't see it beyond people having a few unguilded and one guilded tracker and if your unguilded get FTE, you just tag them.

Really though, the whole FTE business is retarded.


Outdoor dragons should be able to spawn at anywhere along their pathing nodes
Trackers who are in zone on pop shouldn't be able to FTE

Those two changes would help a bit with the dragons being engaged with autofire jav macros and people chain clicking for 15min.

If TMO had more than 2 representatives, I'd agree with this. But it'd be pretty fucking obvious and we'd have to forfeit the mob, and we're not fucking retarded, so we don't.

Also, FTE spam is literally the worst the server has ever been. That shit has got to stop on all sides and I don't think it's going to happen without GM intervention, though.