Why does Class C

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I propose that during class c and ffa traks, we should be allowed to camp at ledge, since tmo and ib are the only 2 that show up for either. this coth war shit is getting old real quick. IB would never agree tho, they know theyd never get another trak.

food for thought

Thats all mages are good for though lol

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I propose that during class c and ffa traks, we should be allowed to camp at ledge, since tmo and ib are the only 2 that show up for either. this coth war shit is getting old real quick. IB would never agree tho, they know theyd never get another trak.

food for thought

Jesus H Christ.

You guys already cheat and have a bunch of people camped out at the ledge that show up when Cothing starts. The least you can do is pretend to play by the rules.

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus H Christ.

You guys already cheat and have a bunch of people camped out at the ledge that show up when Cothing starts. The least you can do is pretend to play by the rules.

actually thats how IB gets Trak lol; we just want to start doing the same with out repercussion.

Just like the reversal suspension free pass they get for camping in BR in VP

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus H Christ.

You guys already cheat and have a bunch of people camped out at the ledge that show up when Cothing starts. The least you can do is pretend to play by the rules.

You talk as if you know about this, all I see is you standing in front of a vending machine.

[bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus H Christ.

You guys( Ingolrious Basterds ) already cheat and have a bunch of people camped out at the ledge that show up when Cothing starts. The least you can do is pretend to play by the rules.

Fixed

[Shinko]

who wants to play a 4 people want to sit @ seb, waiting for Trak to spawn, when we can use only 1 low life person to track

[Shinko]

i think i am retarded

[Nikon]

Wasn't some of the class C raid rules implemented to help with class R entry into Class C and to promote 'competition'? How many guilds have graduated from R to C since this was all implemented? You guys enjoying all that 'competition' we heard so much about?

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't some of the class C raid rules implemented to help with class R entry into Class C and to promote 'competition'?

If that was the intent, the raid policy failed utterly. Instead it's had the opposite effect. Class R became class "Refuge" for guilds that can't compete with TMO. They avoid getting flagged as class C like a plague. IB seems like the only one who tries. In effect, TMO and IB no longer have to beat 9 or 10 other guilds to get most of their kills; now they only have to beat 1.

The main effects of the class system seem to have been to a) prevent most guilds from working with each other or significantly helping each other, and b) to cause the second-tier guilds to start disliking and distrusting each other instead of focusing all of their hate solely on TMO.

Danth

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that was the intent, the raid policy failed utterly. Instead it's had the opposite effect. Class R became class "Refuge" for guilds that can't compete with TMO. They avoid getting flagged as class C like a plague. IB seems like the only one who tries. In effect, TMO and IB no longer have to beat 9 or 10 other guilds to get most of their kills; now they only have to beat 1.

The main effects of the class system seem to have been to a) prevent most guilds from working with each other or significantly helping each other, and b) to cause the second-tier guilds to start disliking and distrusting each other instead of focusing all of their hate solely on TMO.

Danth

The difference now is that Class R guilds are fully sheltered from Class C guilds. Class R guilds exist as Class R specifically because they choose not to operate in the manner that class C guilds are willing to. Because of this, Class R guilds never had meaningful or substantive participation in end game content. The current setup completely segregates the populations so that each may enjoy its own playstyle without regard to the other. I started a thread about why this segregation is necessary here: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...noring+average

From my perspective, Class R seems to be getting along admirably. They've established a rotation, and are handling disputes and issues with relative civility and efficiency.