Shaman vs Druid soloing...

[Vlak]

General consensus on shaman race is that Ogre is best at the end game due to stun immunity and innate regen being canceled out by torpor and canni. During 1-60 grind, though troll or iksar have a huge advantage with their innate regen. Trolls slightly moreso because they can use JBB (then again, if you can get JBB, you're probably better off going ogre since you have the time/money to invest in that kind of endgame character).

[gummab]

You could argue until the end of time about the best race(though it is troll.)
It should be more what you prefer regen,stun immunity,fast xp.

[justin2090]

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Regrowth -15 hp a tick
Fungi Tunic - 15 hp a tick

So at 60 for a ikky/troll shaman sitting is 48 hp a tick(42 a tick standing)... without torpor!

With torpor/regen/fungi; for ikky/troll that is 342 a tick standing versus barb/ogre 334 a tick standing. so for ikky/troll thats an extra 32-40 hp per torpor cast

Torpor Standing:
ikky/troll hp to mana: 8.55 hp per mana spent (1710 HP)
barb/ogre hp to mana: 8.35 hp per mana spent (1670 HP)

Torpor Sitting:
ikky/troll hp to mana: 8.7 hp per mana spent (1740 HP)
barb/ogre hp to mana: 8.425 hp per mana spent (1685 HP)

so for every 42 torpors, you get 1 extra torpors worth of hp as an ikky/troll versus ogre/barb.

started this post to defend ikky shammies (and troll) in how valuable regen is even at 60. ended post with f it, all shammies are awesome

side note. i also am a 60 cleric and love celestial elixir (clerics torpor 1200 hp over 4 ticks @ 300 mana cost with no slow/snare effect). Just realized torpor is more mana efficient than CE. Thats pretty cool.

[Zalora]

Druid is far and wide better than Shaman at solo'ing. Their ability to quad kite and charm puts them leagues above the tedious root rotting that shaman do. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Rika]

Originally Posted by Zalora [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Druid is far and wide better than Shaman at solo'ing. Their ability to quad kite and charm puts them leagues above the tedious root rotting that shaman do. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

You obviously have never done 2nd level CoM with an epic Shaman luv. It's hardly tedious.

Edit: Also http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...11#post1427511

Originally Posted by Zalora [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a 53 Druid and I'm sick of quad kiting raptors in Timorous Deep because I suck and they always kill me. Is there any good alternative places to quad kite?

Charming is out of the question because charms always break.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by Zalora [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Druid is far and wide better than Shaman at solo'ing. Their ability to quad kite and charm puts them leagues above the tedious root rotting that shaman do. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

With every post I'm more and more convinced that YOU don't know what you're talking about. You almost never see druids soloing in high end dungeons but a shaman can solo some of the tuffest mobs that only enc's and necro's could attempt. Shaman slow trumps everything you mentioned imo....

[Zalora]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With every post I'm more and more convinced that YOU don't know what you're talking about. You almost never see druids soloing in high end dungeons but a shaman can solo some of the tuffest mobs that only enc's and necro's could attempt. Shaman slow trumps everything you mentioned imo....

Shaman solo in dungeons because they root rot and run to zone lines when there's danger and it's a good way to kill time while waiting for groups. Druids quad kite and charm out in open zones. Quad kiting in KC would be kind of stupid.

The only people that want to believe Shaman are better at solo'ing than Druid are Shaman players clinging to their pride and lack of experience with Druid.

[Rika]

Noooo, shaman solo in dungeons because it's good exp, decent loot at higher levels and we can do 4-6 mobs at a time for exp. Both classes are good in their own way, some prefer Shaman, some prefer Druid. I'd like to see a druid solo named in Seb :-P

[Furniture]

Originally Posted by Zalora [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people that want to believe Shaman are better at solo'ing than Druid are Shaman players clinging to their pride and lack of experience with Druid.

You are comparing soloing for exp vs soloing for drops. A druid can solo for exp generally better for sure, especially with a lumi staff, but this is absolutely not true at level 60 when you are camping yourself items. A shaman can solo camps in sebilis for example which a druid cannot even come close. That is the truth and not "A shaman player clinging to their pride and lack of experience with Druid." lol.

[Auvdar]

Originally Posted by Zalora [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman solo in dungeons because they root rot and run to zone lines when there's danger and it's a good way to kill time while waiting for groups. Druids quad kite and charm out in open zones. Quad kiting in KC would be kind of stupid.

The only people that want to believe Shaman are better at solo'ing than Druid are Shaman players clinging to their pride and lack of experience with Druid.

Druids can out pace a shaman with minimal gear when it comes to leveling, that's about it.

Shamans can take on bigger game solo, which is what makes them better than druids in terms of overall soloing.