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Old 05-07-2014, 02:42 PM
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Yes. I tested this giving a level 1 rat in EC a couple of 5/55 rings. The max HP on the mob won't update until you break charm, but they definitely do work. I don't whether or to what extent AC affects mitigation or dex affects proc rate or -MR affects resists though. Most of the solo artist challenge people swear by this, but I've never seen anyone with any data at all on the subject.

Maybe I'll motivate myself to go spam 100 roots on the undead foreman, then give him 10k in MR gear and spam another 100 roots to see what happens. Maybe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (edit - guess this wouldn't be a good test, cause +mr and -mr gear could work differently... would have to test the -40 mr possible on a level 53 mob or something)




Imo those items aren't worth the effort for XP grinding. I've been buying them for years on my chanter and I think I only ever used them a couple of times. Even if we assume they do make a difference at all, it won't be a very big one on a long-term, grinding pet... probably similar to charming something 1-2 levels lower... a pet that hits for 128 instead of 120 (but then you'd have to use allure to charm instead of cajoling whispers!). Just my unscientific opinion though! Ench+cle duo doesn't need extra help to be a mob meatgrinder anyways [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


Edit - seriously doubt there is any kind of weight limit snare effect on charms, as hilarious as that would be.
Velious beta would be a great place to test these things. have to find appropriate mobs in a velious zone, but you're not losing items and can continously copy your character to restock them for new tests.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:03 PM
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Well its my goal to gather as much information as possible for us chanters on the benefits of purchasing - magic res items. If you plan on six hours of grinding with a cleric or healer class with a fully equipped pet (mage mask included). I've read online that NPC's can only have 1 ring item is this correct?
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:04 PM
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I read that too, but the test I did here on p99 showed both +hp rings worked on the mob in EC.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:06 PM
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How did you know the rings had both worked?
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:12 PM
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Perfect, I will attempt this with w -10 mr 75 hp rings to see if it is able to use both rings. If this works with a pair of shoulders that would make -30 MR which is 10 lower then our personal Debuff.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:15 PM
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Go do the tashania quest! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh, well. I guess you've only got one more level for tashanian. But shame on you for not doing that quest! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:19 PM
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I already have Tanshania, this is more about min-maxing pet for personal benefits when duo'ing with an enchanter/cleric combo. If I am able to keep my personal charmed pet longer with less breaks I find the amount of money I am spending to be justified by less annoying moments while xping. This has been used in the solo challenge, but I am more interested in a day to day use.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:37 PM
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Well if money is no issue, then give your pet a tola robe instead of a mage mask, a steel hilted flint dagger mainhand and a tome of the eternal offhand, a bunch of banded just incase AC boosts your pets mitigation, AND the -mr rings and shoulders. Then your pet will proc for hundreds a few times per minute and have crazy aggro, be almost 100% hasted with your buffs, take little damage so that your wife can nuke to help increase kill speed, and you'll still be getting about double the -MR that an enchanter can do alone.

I understand enchantering pretty well, I was just assuming that you are a typicalish leveling enchanter who would be better off just grinding xp than spending time and money to make the remaining time you have somewhat better... especially if you're in a location where your pet is likely only going to be used for 1 session before someone else kills it off.

edit - and stream it! It'd be fun to see what a level 45ish mob can do as a pet with all those bells and whistles.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:42 PM
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Well this is more of a Day to Day item list for normal chanters willing to spend like 700pp on a stack of items that he could use over a week period before going back to EC and grabbing more. So the rings and shoulder were what I was looking for and I appreciate the info.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:44 PM
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Tome of the eternal is another great item! with that plus the 2 rings and shoulder we are now at -40 + -40 debuff so -80 MR isn't to shabby for like 200 - 300PP. This could be invaluable for POH raiding as well, give an Abhorrent these items + malo + tash and you have a very dependable pet.
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