A Plea to the Staff of Project 1999

[Zexa]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reiker is the example brought up over and over but we almost didn't take him over that MQ shit. The guy did some stupid shit a long time ago when he was an officer in <Fine Steel Long Swords>, which was a different organization with different goals and different leadership. We gave him a chance, with the express knowledge that if such an incident happened in the future there would be a guild ban with no questions asked. If you don't have more evidence than that please stop beating that drum once and for all, it's getting to be like we're a married couple bringing shit up from 10 years ago.

I'd like to double emphasize this since Reiker has become a red herring whenever IB tries to bring something relevant forth. Perhaps he would like to defend himself on any personal attacks, as it's not my place to do it for him, but I do admire that he did not try to hide who he was when he returned, even after creating a completely new character to play as a main. I want to go into depth on this because I find it comical that I was there when Tiki was banned(By Tumpy Tonic Tantalar). The reason I find humor in this is that he was in the middle of a long bug post on how to help fix the pathing in Lower Guk. I don't find the fact that he was trying to contribute to making this a better server for us all while while being banned comical. I find the fact that Tibador brought this up to defend himself funny. A GM himself exploiting the server's lack of pathing.

As long as he plays on this server Reiker will carry this brand, but he continues to do a lot to contribute to the server. I suppose it would have been easier to release your IP and create a new character on the server like some of the banned people I know did, but luck was on his side and it seems he'd rather not break connections and take the approach of atonement.

I don't intend to look like I'm blindly defending anyone who has violated the server rules, but I wanted to point out that any guild decision in this matter was -very- carefully thought out, and it has paid off well for us.

[Keystone]

It isn't just a "PVP server mentality" to want to compete. I wish you'd quit fucking saying that stupid shit.

[Supreme]

Rotation is what has worked over MANY servers for MANY years. Other than selfishness and immaturity their is no reason to protest a rotation.

[Wonton]

First to engage is what has worked over MANY servers for MANY years. Other than selfishness and immaturity their is no reason to protest a first to engage.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Wonton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First to engage is what has worked over MANY servers for MANY years. Other than selfishness and immaturity their is no reason to protest a first to engage.

Is this your modus operandi?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Wonton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First to engage is what has worked over MANY servers for MANY years. Other than selfishness and immaturity their is no reason to protest a first to engage.

There's no reason to protest it as a player.

From a GMs perspective, it's entirely reasonable to assume inmates running the assylum is something you'll go to great lengths to prevent.

[Zarniwooop]

Originally Posted by Wonton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First to engage is what has worked over MANY servers for MANY years. Other than selfishness and immaturity their is no reason to protest a first to engage.

Flat out wrong.

[Deanob]

SOLUTION-

GM's just wash your hands clean of any spawn competition. Why do you care anyway? So as long the spawns are not being exploited in any way it shouldn't really matter to you...

Let the guilds duke it out, were all ADULTS, we don't need to be hand held.

100% of your time will be freed if you just walk away. Let it be FFA, let the spirit of the competition and game play it self out. No intervention is sometimes a good intervention. IMHO of course

[axius]

we know that in classic eq, on live servers, there IS precedent for raid targets / distribution being handled in at least TWO different ways. call them the "rules" if you want.

1) the most uberest guild (dedication, time, gear, skill) gets what the most uberest guild wants. the server i was on was like this (the nameless, guild: legacy of steel). competing guilds would sneak in a kill here and there but for the most part LoS was getting whatever they wanted because they were the most dedicated. you had semi-brief periods of head-butting with other guilds which would result in long as fuck camps, training, ks'ing and general ass-hattery but usually this would go away once it was clear WHO was more dedicated. if one guild keeps getting the lions share of the kills even DESPITE your membership spending countless hours waiting / getting fucked over... well that guild doesn't hold up over the long run and the situation sort of just resolves itself - the uberest guild wins. this isn't just a pvp thing, this was the case on a lot of pve servers as well

2) there are 2-4 "uber-capable" guilds that are constantly racing to spawns, camping shit for hours, and more or less dealing with all the shit i explained above. however, the stars have aligned and the different guilds are able to work it out amongst eachother to "share" the targets, and a raid target rotation is setup. this way ppl get loots over time and they dont have to sock out quite so hard to get them. i know this was the case on karana where a buddy of mine played in classic, and im sure several other servers as well. i know in some cases you'd even end up with scenarios where members of the individual guilds end up raiding with eachother from time to time, etc. there's also of course the scenarios where one of the guilds steps out of line on the rotation and you have a drama bomb, people get butthurt for awhile, and eventually that guild (usually) gets ground into dust and it stops being a problem.

so i think we can all agree that there is precedent for both and we should thus all be able to agree that it's plausible for ones mans "classic" isn't anothers, and so on.

where i think there's a special wrinkle here is that in true live classic it wasn't the gm's that were enforcing this stuff per-se ... at least not until after agreements had already been made between the player bases. in this case you have gm's enforcing the rules - that's not quite so classic by most ppl's recollections.

HOWEVER

there's another wrinkle here which is - let's not forget, this is a fuckin free emu server, you ARE in THEIR world now and they more or less have the freedom to make the rules how they see fit. now you can say that's not classic or w/e and we can debate that but ultimately it's tough shit.

when i played EQ i participated in scenario 1) above, and i thoroughly enjoyed my time. but i gotta say, at this juncture in my life, and i would assume in a lot of our lives, doesn't option 2 sound reasonable?

this isn't 1999 where uber guilds are trying to be internet famous (remember the big guild sites everyone always checked, to see what all the leets were doing? foh, los, al, etc).. let's face it that shit is over with. you're not gonna be internet famous, no one gives a *real* shit about any of this, the primary focus should be on having a good time. option 2 facilitates that with (hopefully) a lessened degree of poop-socking which is ultimately probably going to make this a more enjoyable overall experience.

this shit's capping at velious anyways. you're only racing towards *so much*

[Supreme]

just going to leave it at that.