Why cant TD Spirocs be considered one camp?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so 1200 people peak is too much for classic eq? I'm calling shenanigans

Been on that well trodden path lately?

Kurns > Unrest > MM > Lower Guk/CoM > KC > Seb

Camped to fuck, server thriving... but sometimes its good to get some XP rather than sitting around waiting for a group or competing with other pullers for mobs as they repop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vandlaetari]

Also, people are all about saying the red community keeps them away from playing etc.

I charmed a skeleton in KC last week, gave it a mandolin (I stay classy, no shitty torches). Run up to hands with my group that had just formed.

Some iksar monk (Sagisaurus) comes running in claiming I took his named mob (skeletal guardian isn't a named mob). Telling me to break the charm so he could pull it to his group, getting mad etc. I had to explain to him it wasn't a named mob and the mandolin was put on a pet that I'd charmed from the moat. He was simmering, but left.

TL;DR: Toxic players on both servers, its the internet... assholes sometimes play video games and elf sims.
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I'm just new to the zone and thought i had pulled that one, not having seen a mandolin on a mob yet I was quite curious. Once you explained it was a pet I left and apologized. Definitely not simmering =)

[Masq]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blue solution: Get mad, maybe start a thread on the forums (see OP).

Red solution: Claim the camp for yourself,realize you have no one else to play with, and create mass posts on forums trying to recruit for dead server.

fix for u [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[snoopiku]

1,000 people isn't too much, but it makes all the "popular" leveling places packed at times. I know what Swish is talking about as I went to SK aviaks to farm on my 25 monk recently and the competition for mobs was insane. I was there to make a bit of coin from the gems they drop, which was nice as I got a couple black pearls, emeralds, and peridots. However, I bailed shortly after and went back to farming explorers in LOIO, which are mostly LB at this point, and only rarely drop ringmail, but its consistant, its easy, and I can solo at my pace without fighting for every DB mob that pops.

That being said, I am very happy with the server population and hope it grows in the future. As I mentioned, the popular leveling spots are sometimes overcamped, but then it forces people to explore areas, making groups for places like the froglok city in SoNH and Dalnir viable options.

[Raavak]

There are other places to level. Tons of empty zones. Yes, less than optimal, but do you want steady exp or rather compete over every pop?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are other places to level. Tons of empty zones. Yes, less than optimal, but do you want steady exp or rather compete over every pop?

Not so easy to make a group and get them to follow you to Nurga though is it?...and hope that they'll stay a couple of hours at least.

The two points I was trying to make:-

1. People won't play on a "dead" server because they want to group. Yet I see 4-5 people that could group soloing in SK at the aviak village yesterday, and similar signs of solo monks in Mistmoore, people soloing in Unrest, CoM, etc etc.

2. Competing for every pop in those zones is just a timesink, and without a regular group of pals to XP with you're forced to follow the herd, or solo (although good luck in the 50+ solo spots, camped!)

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are other places to level. Tons of empty zones. Yes, less than optimal, but do you want steady exp or rather compete over every pop?

I think they want to get optimal EXP without having to compete once they stake claim to the camp. Atleast that's what I gathered from this thread...

I dunno, I feel like it should be a camp just like Aviaks in South Karana are a camp if you can keep them all down... The statics not the roamers.

Then again, I don't have much experience with these spirocs. Are they mostly static spawns with a few roamers or do they roam all over the place?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they want to get optimal EXP without having to compete once they stake claim to the camp. Atleast that's what I gathered from this thread...

I dunno, I feel like it should be a camp just like Aviaks in South Karana are a camp if you can keep them all down... The statics not the roamers.

Then again, I don't have much experience with these spirocs. Are they mostly static spawns with a few roamers or do they roam all over the place?

There's a bunch in the tree city, with probably another 7-8 pathing around underneath, and a few towers with one in dotted around.

Trying to call it as a camp is a douchey move really, I duo'ed there with an enchanter on my cleric and we did a good job keeping most of the spawns down... but if a druid turned up and started to quad kite, what were we going to do? Try and say "hey dude, we're xp'ing here...piss off" ?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a bunch in the tree city, with probably another 7-8 pathing around underneath, and a few towers with one in dotted around.

Trying to call it as a camp is a douchey move really, I duo'ed there with an enchanter on my cleric and we did a good job keeping most of the spawns down... but if a druid turned up and started to quad kite, what were we going to do? Try and say "hey dude, we're xp'ing here...piss off" ?

I dunno... People are saying that exact quote when someone is already killing spore king or crypt. (Save me the red quote on this topic.) That's just how most things in life work. You share and sometimes have to wait your turn. There is a reason they try to teach sharing and waiting your turn to kids early on in school. It's important to behaving in a normal society.

It's how camps work. Now some things are uncampable due to random spawn location and roaming mobs. Other things, namely dungeons, are camp able since most things are static and the roamers have specific pathing. That Spiroc camp sounds like a hybrid of the two. I dunno whether that is really camp able though. Maybe the roaming mobs are FFA and the static spawns are a camp.

Really though, people just need to play nice and realize people are clearing most mobs before you show up, you should just come back later.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now some things are uncampable due to random spawn location and roaming mobs.

No such thing. The roamers in outdoor zones have set spawn locations and set paths they follow, just like indoor zones.