Current state of World of Warcraft?

[heartbrand]

I play WoW. Icy-Veins is prolly the best site for returning players. If you haven't played in MoP, you can get an instant level 90 just buy pre-ordering the new expansion. To work on your ilvl you'll want to run LFR's for Siege of Ogrimaar [end raid zone], max out your conquest [cap carries over week to week now so you'll start with a like 9k cap] so you can buy 550 ilvl items [just spam areans, you don't need a team anymore can just do yolo 2's as they're called], work your legendary cloak quest line ASAP it's ilvl 600 and opens up a boss called Ordos [see icy-veins for details], do the celestials world boss once a week for a shot @ 553 ilvl stuff, always cap your valor, do timeless isle quests and things for shot @ some 535 items, there's a 553 belt and pants craftable that you can buy in AH, etc. etc.

I can't stress enough how great openraid.us is. EVERYTHING is cross realmable now in WoW. You don't need a raiding guild to get into the content anymore. You can find PUG SOO raids, celestials, world bosses, even people just farming valor or questing.

If you have any questions shoot me a pm. MoP was one of the best expansions the game has ever had. Don't be deterred by the WoW haters.

[heartbrand]

Ya that pvp on red99. [22 players online currently]

[Combobreaker]

Originally Posted by Obwin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played WoW raiding hardcore from vanilla > BC and IMO BC was the best raid experience I had in any MMO. Since then I've went back and leveled here and there but never got back into the raid scene.

I think we can all (mostly) agree that the daily play pretty much sucks with all the daily quest, (solo) faction grinds and tokens or whatever else they've added but my question is the new heroic 10man content actually fun/challenging or is it just more of the same old same old? I always played healer and found raid healing / strategy to be a lot of fun but when I went back LFG pickup heroics/dungeons were so easy it was pretty much pointless.

Are there some people from p1999 actually playing WoW right now? As an adult with a career there is something very alluring about being able to make meaningful progress raiding 2-3 times a week ON MY SCHEDULE provided the raiding is actually fun.

I see some people from p1999 posting about playing wow I'd be curious hear some analysis of what is good, what sucks and if recommended or not from people who have actually played and raided recently before I bother getting a whole UI installed, figuring out all the new abilities / rotations etc.

I've got some old friends that play arena-tournament & excalibur for nostalgias sake.
I personally wouldn't touch retail though, I think there's even a decent vanilla server somewhere

[iiNGloriouS]

Know your class and min maxing lol maybe back in TBC/WotLK. Clicking 5 buttons on procs is real skill too.

[Fawqueue]

Everything Heartbrand described about the current state of things was depressing. There's a goddamn 'finder' for everything now, and it just facilitates a lazy, bullshit shell of a game that used to be a lot of fun.

Warcraft needs to launch a classic server and remove all the nonsense.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything Heartbrand described about the current state of things was depressing. There's a goddamn 'finder' for everything now, and it just facilitates a lazy, bullshit shell of a game that used to be a lot of fun.

Warcraft needs to launch a classic server and remove all the nonsense.

I don't find the whole sitting around in a town for 2 hours to find the necessary people to play the game any fun. Luckily MMO devs agree and all new mmo's have finders for everything.

[Stasis04]

I'm pretty sure my war is on Tichondrius, I couldn't get immersed but I got my free 90 and I'm sure it'll happen someday, probably next expansion maybe sooner.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't find the whole sitting around in a town for 2 hours to find the necessary people to play the game any fun. Luckily MMO devs agree and all new mmo's have finders for everything.

And I'm not surprised they agree, since they want to market their products to the audience that will net them the biggest profit. I may be too old-school in the way I want to do things, but the next generation absolutely needs these things arranged and spoon fed to them. My son is 13, and can't barely handle cooperating with four other random players in a match of league of legends. I couldn't imagine him actually trying to put together a team of his own.

In twenty years the genre will change again and my son will be complaining about how much he misses the good ol' days when MMOs had raid finders, maps, and easy-mode quest markers. All the while his son will tell him that the whole sitting around in a queue for 2 minutes to find the necessary people to play the game with isn't any fun and lucklly MMO devs agree. That's why they'll have one-hit kill legendary boss mobs in an empty room that require no groups for instant gratification.

[Obwin]

You lost me at...

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My son is 13, and can't barely handle .

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[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gamers arn't in school anymore

majority of gamers are adults with jobs and aint got time for /1 LFG FOR GROUP PLZ SEND TELL for 2 hours

thats why everything has a queue these days

thats why classic exp on a 10 person server doesn't work

Oh I'm aware, I'm 31 with a full-time job, a kid, and life. Even still, I'd rather carve out some time to put together a group or raid force with like-minded guild members that I've had experience with and trust, as opposed to joining a queue of randoms who don't say a word and disappear into obscurity when it's finished.

It's a preference thing, I'm aware that the new-school of gamers want things to be simple so they can get the full experience in a fraction of the time. I personally get a greater sense of achievement when I'm a part of something incredibly organized and social. I'm not necessarily saying what I enjoy is better...just that I enjoyed WoW more in it's earlier state and it's depressing to me (and maybe me only) that it's changed so drastically.