Server Spring Cleaning

[Mirana]

Originally Posted by Trosh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unless you want to eventually become a Live server it will stagnate and die, simple mathematics

Please show me this math. I expect a full derivation.

[skorge]

I know where OP is coming from...Sirken and gang failed to make any kind of economy/market adjustment knowing Velious would be 2+ years behind schedule. We are at the point now where it's too late, IMO to make any drastic change.

What could have been done was something I suggested a long time ago: make legendary items (items such as the fungi tunic, RBG, etc) much rarer than classic. This would have reduced the number of certain items on the server, making it more realistic.

This is the only conclusion I can draw from the situation - if & when P99 starts a fresh server, there won't be this problem, because they will have Velious ready to release within 11 months after Kunark.

[Pint]

Heh delete people's coin and make all items no drop.. Good luck farming anything of value when me and a handful of people I know lock down all the good camps we've been repeating for years and fleece this server for all the resources it has left. you're talking about giving all the hardcore farmers renewed incentive to dominate the market bc you went and reset it to 0 while we already have a massive advantage over you.

[Xerxez]

The thing is that the grind is so incredibly long that theres no way everyone will become fully geared and have nothing left to do. And there are so many class and race combinations that theres always room for an alt too. Eq is eq man. Thats why we are here. Its always been save x amount of plat for such n such item or farm it yourself. Some people have more time for this but if you dont just go at your own pace. And the general rule is if you were there first then the spawn is yours. You can always ask whoever is farming the spawn you want to let you know when he/she is finished so you can take over. People on this server are generally nice and will give you a heads up. Im just trying to think of ways for you to see past your own idea because its just unfair.

[Trosh]

Originally Posted by Mirana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please show me this math. I expect a full derivation.

In a game that has characters progressing, you need content to continue to progress with the characters.

easy way to imagine it is it's a foot race: everyone runs at different speeds. If you want to continue the game, you must add miles to the end of the race, otherwise eventually everyone will just be milling around the finish line.

I know it's tougher then 1 + 1

[Trosh]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heh delete people's coin and make all items no drop.. Good luck farming anything of value when me and a handful of people I know lock down all the good camps we've been repeating for years and fleece this server for all the resources it has left. you're talking about giving all the hardcore farmers renewed incentive to dominate the market bc you went and reset it to 0 while we already have a massive advantage over you.

yeah, was looking for constructive replies

[Mirana]

Originally Posted by Trosh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a game that has characters progressing, you need content to continue to progress with the characters.

easy way to imagine it is it's a foot race: everyone runs at different speeds. If you want to continue the game, you must add miles to the end of the race, otherwise eventually everyone will just be milling around the finish line.

I know it's tougher then 1 + 1

Everquest has no finish line. It isn't a like a race. It isn't a console game that you beat and put away. There is tons of stuff to do at level 60. Or you can reroll and, as you put it, run the "race" again. And again. Or run it differently.

Not to mention what you are talking about here (adding content) is a completely separate discussion from wiping items.

Let me just ask this. What do you REALLY expect to come from this discussion? The devs are aware of the state of the economy. What we think of it is irrelevant, it is their world, we just live in it. If they ever want our opinion, they will ask.

[Porcoa]

Yes, let us delete everyone's pp and make their items no drop. But most importantly - NO MORE SILLY NAMES.

Trosh shall be this server's savior.

[Fame]

Trosh - Trash

[Trosh]

Originally Posted by Mirana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everquest has no finish line. It isn't a like a race. It isn't a console game that you beat and put away. There is tons of stuff to do at level 60. Or you can reroll and, as you put it, run the "race" again. And again. Or run it differently.

Not to mention what you are talking about here (adding content) is a completely separate discussion from wiping items.

Let me just ask this. What do you REALLY expect to come from this discussion? The devs are aware of the state of the economy. What we think of it is irrelevant, it is their world, we just live in it. If they ever want our opinion, they will ask.

Clearly you aren't getting it.
I totally didn't realize I was on a computer instead of my Xbox, thanks for that.
It could or couldn't be a race, that has nothing to do with the example I gave. It was just an analogy, not me thinking I'm playing a racing game.

It's a fallback server that will stay stuck in the past - which is cool and all - I was simply putting a thought I had out there and wondering what people thought about it and if they had any other ideas.

Of course the devs are aware, I'm not addressing this to them, simply talking about the game and issues with games like this. Not really looking for people to come in and talk crap, you can do that in a different thread if you want, just want a constructive discussion and to hear other people's ideas - not listen to them whine about it.