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Old 04-11-2014, 02:24 PM
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The salts have nothing to do with Chardok, they should drop in frontier mountains, droga and nurga.
eventually after like the last patch we'll get on this server we get the chardok revamp!

in which case the salts become very valuable for faction grinders. Leave it out for now imo poisons are fun but pretty useless and i just see people farming salts for months and when it finally comes out youll have people max dok in an hour...
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:24 PM
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eventually after like the last patch we'll get on this server we get the chardok revamp!

in which case the salts become very valuable for faction grinders. Leave it out for now imo poisons are fun but pretty useless and i just see people farming salts for months and when it finally comes out youll have people max dok in an hour...
Ok, again, this is not true because the salts are *required for the 8th coldain ring* They are used in the poison mind meld, which is used in the brewing of tainted avalanche ale.

Mind meld is also a really good poison, as are several of the 250 poisons, at least situationally.

It sucks enough that poison isn't working as a class skill on this server, the recipes should at least work for those of us who grinded it up to GM.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:47 PM
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The salts have nothing to do with Chardok, they should drop in frontier mountains, droga and nurga.
The simple point I was trying to make is that the salts do have something to do with chardok, not now no but eventually.

as far as if they should be in now or not i don't know, if they are goodluck hope they get added for you.

personal opinion poisons are awful, which makes me sad it was the #1 reason i rolled a rog on live back in the day. Even situationally they aren't very good, and after the pop revamp of poisons they still sucked.

I got it to around 150 here before i just gave up because...why
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:55 PM
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eventually after like the last patch we'll get on this server we get the chardok revamp!

in which case the salts become very valuable for faction grinders. Leave it out for now imo poisons are fun but pretty useless and i just see people farming salts for months and when it finally comes out youll have people max dok in an hour...
Salts are irrelevant in this case, you can already do this with goblin skins, and even then, if you are going to farm skins and salts ahead of time, chances are you'll capping Dizok before the chardok patch anyway, I know many of us already have.
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Old 04-11-2014, 04:17 PM
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yeah shouldve figured with this server haha.


This was a tough one, only thing I could find was a page of npc's that sold make poison supplies, however, The dwarf in loio is mentioned as selling supplies.

11/2000
http://web.archive.org/web/200101182...eqtraders.com/

If hes in and selling supplies like he should be and is, and that poison is in the book id imagine it should be creatable. outside of that I found absolutely nothing on salts/mind melt etc from anything pre velious.
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Old 04-11-2014, 04:54 PM
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yeah shouldve figured with this server haha.


This was a tough one, only thing I could find was a page of npc's that sold make poison supplies, however, The dwarf in loio is mentioned as selling supplies.

11/2000
http://web.archive.org/web/200101182...eqtraders.com/

If hes in and selling supplies like he should be and is, and that poison is in the book id imagine it should be creatable. outside of that I found absolutely nothing on salts/mind melt etc from anything pre velious.
That's great, thanks. Yes, he is in.
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Old 04-11-2014, 04:18 PM
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Linking patch notes for poison changes.

6-29-2000
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000629.html
Many new recipes for the "Make Poison" skill are now in game. Features include: Several new poison books, stackable components, new suspensions, some purchasable components, and players now have the ability to purchase vials. Please check your vendors.

7-19-2000
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000719.html
Poison:

Implemented the high level Rogue poisons (level 51+).
Increased Rogue "Make Poison" skill cap.
Substantially reduced chance to fail "Apply Poison".
Rogues will now automatically sit when right-clicking on a poison.
Failure to make a poison will now return the vial.

As discussed here, Rogean found something pre velious in October.
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Earliest date I found is 10/16/2000:

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I have one and would guess a dye for ????
http://web.archive.org/web/200211040...how&IID=227309
Could have been added towards the end of Kunark?
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Old 04-11-2014, 04:55 PM
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Linking patch notes for poison changes.

6-29-2000
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000629.html
Many new recipes for the "Make Poison" skill are now in game. Features include: Several new poison books, stackable components, new suspensions, some purchasable components, and players now have the ability to purchase vials. Please check your vendors.

7-19-2000
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000719.html
Poison:

Implemented the high level Rogue poisons (level 51+).
Increased Rogue "Make Poison" skill cap.
Substantially reduced chance to fail "Apply Poison".
Rogues will now automatically sit when right-clicking on a poison.
Failure to make a poison will now return the vial.

As discussed here, Rogean found something pre velious in October.
Legit. Thank you. This is the patch that added the kunark stuff and the IV and V line of poisons, of which a few are just still broken. We're definitely past this "point" in kunark, so we should be good to get these in.
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:22 PM
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:27 AM
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Bump for Big Shiftin and his poison shenanigans
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