Miscellaneous: Phinigel Autropos should be mezable

[Nirgon]

Mez with what spell is what you gotta prove methinks

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mez with what spell is what you gotta prove methinks

Yeah. Those posts are from way later than classic era are suggesting being level 64+ to solo him might be a good idea. You're gonna have to find stuff about 60s back in 2001 or earlier soloing him before you come close to convincing devs to change him, probably.

OP: what you "remember" doing on live doesn't mean squat here. Need real proof from classic era. Not trying to be rude, it's just that we all "remember" things being a certain way and are oh, so often incorrect about it.

[Ele]

Wiki is player maintained and the devs do not update it or make sure it is correct. The info on the wiki usually gets pulled from the live entries on Allakhazam and then has to be manually corrected for P99 by players.

As others have mention above, you'll need to bring some evidence from 1999-2001 (Classic to Velious era) of him being mezzable or at the very least using those era spells by players 60 and below.

[Sturgeon]

Even if it was meant to be mezzable I don't see it being changed so that one of the end bosses especially for an epic would be allowed to be soloed.

[Daldaen]

Since him being duo'd is just fine...

[Nirgon]

He can be pet cheesed np.

I just want to see what mez spell was used.

[Daldaen]

I would assume song of twilight.

[Lasmori]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would assume song of twilight.

Indeed!
http://wiki.project1999.com/Song_of_Twilight

(Note that Phin is 53)

[Lasmori]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah. Those posts are from way later than classic era are suggesting being level 64+ to solo him might be a good idea. You're gonna have to find stuff about 60s back in 2001 or earlier soloing him before you come close to convincing devs to change him, probably.

OP: what you "remember" doing on live doesn't mean squat here. Need real proof from classic era. Not trying to be rude, it's just that we all "remember" things being a certain way and are oh, so often incorrect about it.

The point isn't that he is "soloable", but that he is mezzable. Never mind that I first soloed him without being 60 my first time, but that's irrelevant.

People believing my solo abilities doesn't really matter *at all* to me. I just wanted to make sure that the fight worked as it did in "classic". The posts I linked to specifically talking about mezzing him. They are from 2004 yes, but finding a post from 2001 is exceptionally hard. I also read through (and linked to) the patch notes from 1999 to 2004 with nothing being mentioned to changes being made to Phin.

(Those patch notes don't always mean a lot either mind you, stuff was constantly changing that wasn't in them.)

Allakhazam has comments of him being soloed from back in 2002... and people replying on this forum have talked about duoing him. It's not some "crazy idea".

[Lasmori]

I just want to note that I am new to the server as of a couple days ago.

I thought the intent of the server was to replicate how the game was in "classic" as much as possible, and thought that I could possibly help in that regard.

I noticed what looked like a discrepancy (also mentioning that I did not have the ability to verify if the discrepancy existed on the server itself, just that I saw it in the wiki). I then provided an example (The only one that I could find given the nature of "classic" being 13-14 years ago.) of where people specifically mentioned the tactic that works on live, but wouldn't on p99 if the wiki is correct.

I also mentioned that I had personal experience with said tactic (because I feel terribly nostalgic of doing the fight that way).

I can't really understand the hostility... and am kinda feeling a bit discouraged from submitting future bug reports at this point.