WTF is happening...

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Praying this doesn't turn into a SOE buyout like Vanguard.

Looking at Brad McQuaid it looks like he is sleeping in his shirts, maybe in his car (anybody else notice that?). So yeah, fear that he will sell it out is realistic.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure someone can, but no one will. Also, 800k is not really enough to get an MMO going. They really needed to make their stretch goals.

Kickstarters like this are merely hype builders and info dumps - they aren't meant to completely fund the game. It let's Brad show possible investors that there is interest in the game he wants to make. That may backfire since there has been a low backer total but high average donation per backer - which indicates there may not be that big of a market for such a game (honestly the idea of an old school MMO is niche anyways).

[Man0warr]

The game industry as a whole is broken right now. The cost of development of AAA games has skyrocketed so much that only a few franchises are successful. Only a few ways to fix it - 1) Raise price of games (consumers are obviously against paying more than the 50-60 we pay now) or 2) Figure out how to make games cheaper, which they have so far failed at. It's also one of the only industries where you can continuously fail at your job (Producer or Director of a game) and still get hired at another company to do the same job. Not to mention the rampant nepotism.

At least Kickstarter allows some legit small dev teams to create games that are fully crowd funded and don't require going to corrupt publishers.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game industry as a whole is broken right now. The cost of development of AAA games has skyrocketed so much that only a few franchises are successful. Only a few ways to fix it - 1) Raise price of games (consumers are obviously against paying more than the 50-60 we pay now) or 2) Figure out how to make games cheaper, which they have so far failed at.

At least Kickstarter allows some legit small dev teams to create games that are fully crowd funded and don't require going to corrupt publishers.

Yeah, there are a LOT of gamer idiots out there ready to fork out money because 'OOOH PRETTY SCREENSHOTS AND PROMISES!!'

I don't hold it against developers when there are enough mouth-breathers ready to fund your project who get no stake in its success. It's a brilliant idea.

Honestly though, there have been a ton of high quality indie games released in the last couple years that were able to be made without swindling money from kickstarter idiots.

[jarshale]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least Kickstarter allows some legit small dev teams to create games that are fully crowd funded and don't require going to corrupt publishers.

I think we're going to see more and more "indie" MMOs coming out through crowdfunding like kickstarter. People are realizing that you just can't throw ludicrous amounts of money at a game to make it successful. For example, TOR was one of the most (or maybe the most) expensive game ever made, and it was a fucking mess and went free to play almost instantly.

So we probably won't see another giant like WoW anytime soon, but hopefully we'll see more smaller scale and specialized MMOs. They'll stop trying to appeal to everyone, and start thinking up interesting concepts and play styles to appeal to certain groups. This will also hopefully encourage healthy communities. I played with many of the same people for years on EQ, but 99% of the people I played WoW with I never saw again after a week or so.

[Kayso]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone can pledge 500k at any moment. Glad you're catching on to how kickstarter works.

I'm willing to fund it for 33% of the funds raised and my 500K back.

250K buys a lot of pills -- won't need to steal 'em anymore. Hook me up, McQuaid!

[Sobee101]

The staff put quite a bit of time into this game. And rogan funds it for the most part…So if they want to give away exp pots to support something then more power to them.

[xnolanx]

Originally Posted by Sobee101 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The staff put quite a bit of time into this game. And rogan funds it for the most part…So if they want to give away exp pots to support something then more power to them.

Not knocking this project one bit.. I'm sure a small handful of the community knows I've been here for a while..

Just trying to get a discussion .. Merely just a surprise to me to randomly pop onto the homepage for the server with something of that magnitude..

Edit: Just surprising news to me.. Wanted to share it with everyone..

[NextGenesis88]

Originally Posted by xnolanx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not knocking this project one bit.. I'm sure a small handful of the community knows I've been here for a while..

Just trying to get a discussion .. Merely just a surprise to me to randomly pop onto the homepage for the server with something of that magnitude..

Edit: Just surprising news to me.. Wanted to share it with everyone..

I think people just need to look at the big picture here. Maybe they didn't need to go as far as early Velious on the main server, but seeing it maybe on a seperate one only so they take nothing away from it. Either way it doesn't effect me so maybe I can't speak on that part. I see the xp pots and items as items they normally would give out for GM events and such and nobody ever complains about those. I think the problem people have is with people getting to pay money and get some items. But what they need to remember is the money is not for the P99 guys. It's for a GREAT cause that is in all of our best interests seeing as the type of MMO we enjoy. I think the P99 guys went that far with it because they really want to see this game succeed and they were going to need a ton of help to make their goal (which they still do).

People should take a step back and really think about this... we should be fighting for a game like this to be made whether you think it will fail or not. Every game being made can succeed or fail. We and the MMO industry needs a game like this again that is built upon. The games have just strayed so far away from what we came to know and love and I am kinda shocked at how many people don't seem to even give a shit. For making such a big move like this I think people should really see that this is a very important thing to Nilbog and the guys. I salute them. They are supporting something that could even have negative effects on their own server, but it's just that important. (by negative effects I mean people may quit P99 completely for this game)

Open your eyes, sit back, go get some pixels and let's get this game supported! It is absolutely absurd if people don't care if this doesn't happen or do well. Like the guys here say, if you aren't supporting of this in any way then you cannot complain about how shitty mmo games are today and that they need to make them more like EQ.

I mean Brad and the guys themselves came to our very own EQEmu server to personally fill us all in on this game. That's so exciting in itself to me and since when does that type of thing happen? I think this is a very unique and special thing we now have going here.

Sorry I type way too much all the time. I just like to type a lot. (especially since I got my first mechanical keyboard. XD Cherry Reds!)

[xnolanx]

Originally Posted by NextGenesis88 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people just need to look at the big picture here. Maybe they didn't need to go as far as early Velious on the main server, but seeing it maybe on a seperate one only so they take nothing away from it. Either way it doesn't effect me so maybe I can't speak on that part. I see the xp pots and items as items they normally would give out for GM events and such and nobody ever complains about those. I think the problem people have is with people getting to pay money and get some items. But what they need to remember is the money is not for the P99 guys. It's for a GREAT cause that is in all of our best interests seeing as the type of MMO we enjoy. I think the P99 guys went that far with it because they really want to see this game succeed and they were going to need a ton of help to make their goal (which they still do).

People should take a step back and really think about this... we should be fighting for a game like this to be made whether you think it will fail or not. Every game being made can succeed or fail. We and the MMO industry needs a game like this again that is built upon. The games have just strayed so far away from what we came to know and love and I am kinda shocked at how many people don't seem to even give a shit. For making such a big move like this I think people should really see that this is a very important thing to Nilbog and the guys. I salute them. They are supporting something that could even have negative effects on their own server, but it's just that important. (by negative effects I mean people may quit P99 completely for this game)

Open your eyes, sit back, go get some pixels and let's get this game supported! It is absolutely absurd if people don't care if this doesn't happen or do well. Like the guys here say, if you aren't supporting of this in any way then you cannot complain about how shitty mmo games are today and that they need to make them more like EQ.

I mean Brad and the guys themselves came to our very own EQEmu server to personally fill us all in on this game. That's so exciting in itself to me and since when does that type of thing happen? I think this is a very unique and special thing we now have going here.

Sorry I type way too much all the time. I just like to type a lot. (especially since I got my first mechanical keyboard. XD Cherry Reds!)

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