Doljon Trains Hate, attempts to KS an already FTE'd Maestro

[radditsu]

Dirty Roberts strike again. And continue to fail!

50 shades of TMO

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mon Feb 10 18:00:59 2014] Ellies says, 'Hand of the MaestroEvensongShield of the Stalwart Seas'

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couldn't help it.

[JayN]

any proof and or evidence?

[Nefarum]

There's so much hate against Doljo because they generally stay away from RnF... basically allowing just one side of the story to perpetuate even if it's not the whole story.

There was never any intentional training in hate. This is Everquest. It's messy and dangerous, especially in a zone like Hate. With 2 guilds maneuvering to get to Maestro, there's bound to be over-agro and wiping. Doljo also wiped to "trains". Once again, I doubt it was intentional on either side.

Doljo saw a window where they could get to Maestro and was moving in for the kill. A-team got FTE (good work). They then ran Maestro straight to our raid, feigned, and agrod Maestro all over Doljo. Probably not intentional, but it's what happened. At that point what do we do? Just let it wipe us since A-team got FTE but trained it on us and isn't engaging? Or kill the mob that was agrod on us?

Sirken then rules in favor of a-team, which feels wrong to me. Sure they engaged, but lost the engage (and not from any Doljo actions). If the puller from A-team ran it to us and lost agro and dumped it on us, feels like they should lose FTE.

I guess we've figured out the newest best tactic for winning FTE races everyone! Just FTE and run the mob into another guild. You only need 1 person in the zone to win!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

any proof and or evidence?

sirken saw the train go down, which is why he made the ruling

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Nefarum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the puller from A-team ran it to us and lost agro and dumped it on us, feels like they should lose FTE.

if that were the case, there would be a new FTE message. Go do your homework, son.

[Triangle]

[QUOTE=Nefarum;1315893]
... They then ran Maestro straight to our raid, feigned, and agrod Maestro all over Doljo. Probably not intentional, but it's what happened. At that point what do we do? Just let it wipe us since A-team got FTE but trained it on us and isn't engaging? Or kill the mob that was agrod on us?

/QUOTE]

Not the case and here is why:
(1) IF Raid Mob is agro'd THEN he shouts FTE of agroer
(2) IF agroer FDs or Dies, THEN Raid Mob resets FTE list UNLESS Raid Mob has another person on agro list
(3) THEREFORE, IF your story were correct THEN Maestro would have shouted a 2nd FTE message and you would have had the kill legitimately.

It is not even up for discussion, that is how the game mechanics work.

[Rellapse36]

Is Fazlazen in this guild?

[JayN]

Ateam stealing lord bob epics confirms sirken in there pockets

[Pullyn]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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couldn't help it.

I lawl'd.