The Next Fix: Blue Copies

[HippoNipple]

I played on blue before red opened and I hated how crowded the server felt. I think it would be nice to even out the server population for both communities.

If there are 1300 people logged in I think everyone would enjoy both servers more if it was split 800/500.

I don't condone any changes to be made to make the current red server anymore blue than it has become but would like some creative solutions to get some of those players to join Red.

If players are copied I would love for those to have the opportunity to give red a try. I would not like the influx of characters brought over by players already playing on red though and I am one that would do this personally.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why: Because this server needs an influx of new blood. Unfortunately, due to the essentially ghost town scenario that new players enter into when they roll here combined with the small but vocal toxic masses, most people don't survive here. This would provide an influx of new players, lead to more guilds, more pvp, more exp groups, a better economy, and a more mature player base.

How: Naked. Plenty of people will be ready to toss items out to those who copy over. While personally I don't mind if people had items, this is the best way to minimize tears. Limit copy to one character per emu account.

The negatives: people are sitting on dozens of characters and could copy lots of characters over. However, I think this negative is a bit overstated since there's already an abundance of characters on red there's just no drivers for said characters.

The positives: instant pop influx. More mature player base.

ForumQuest Engage!

Maybe have one character per month being able to copy or something

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no gimmick left in the bags that can bring a massive influx of new blood. Wipe? Not happening. Exp boost? Brings a few, not many. Velious? Will also be out in blue so will serve to only bring already existing red players back.

My desire is to see this box average 300-350 players a night. Who cares if it's "blue players fucking around"? Great! That means pvp, exp groups. It means they might enjoy it and bring their guild over and their friends. It means a massive amount of new players!

That's not what it means at all. It means a bunch of level 60s (why would you copy here pre 60 and level up while getting PVP'd?) with nothing better to do then fuck with people when they're bored. Everyone trying to level up legitimately would get pounded on by PVP bots naked who don't give a shit about their reputation or anyone on R99.

It might mean PVP but it wouldn't be good PVP. It would be like squashing an unending stream of cockroaches that offer no challenge and are nothing but a nuisance.

You might gain a few players but you'd lose a lot more.

[heartbrand]

Listen, there are definitely drawbacks to this, I admit it in the OP. This isn't an idea situation to be in. But when you're facing a 100 pop server that's critically ill, you need to pursue some risky treatment like you would if you were facing terminal cancer. It's my opinion that is rather sacrifice some of the "integrity" and deal with the side effects of copies or transfers if it meant doubling our pop potentially tripling it. I think the good would outweigh the bad. Maybe cap the copies at level 50 then? I'm not a fan of that but I think it could be a good compromise.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not what it means at all. It means a bunch of level 60s (why would you copy here pre 60 and level up while getting PVP'd?) with nothing better to do then fuck with people when they're bored. Everyone trying to level up legitimately would get pounded on by PVP bots naked who don't give a shit about their reputation or anyone on R99.

It might mean PVP but it wouldn't be good PVP. It would be like squashing an unending stream of cockroaches that offer no challenge and are nothing but a nuisance.

You might gain a few players but you'd lose a lot more.

People pvping and being lame without fear of their reputation? Sounds like red99 already.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Giving people free level 60s isn't going to keep them here. Without any time investment there is no attachment at all. And do you really want people who are just on R99 for the free character?

If it was a one way transfer with no gear at least only the people who are truly willing to give it a shot would come.

Or in reality, the server scum and villains who've used up all their chances on blue will be able to have a fresh start. We'd become a penal colony, but at least we'd have people.

Maybe characters from blue being copied over that are level 40+ could come to red as a level 40 with sol temple gear. If they are melee some standard melee weapon. People established on this server can hit 40 in 2 days with twinking/PL anyways. If players on blue had a chance to give the server a try with nothing to lose I think a level 40 would be encouraging.

Throwing people into Red in the 50-60 range my be too discouraging anyways. The people transferring over would hopefully have some people with their pvp skill and gear to fight against and get to know before hitting 52.

[big mouth chew]

Hey its not your box, why not "play or dont" like he rest of us and keep your grubby mitts off dev decisions FOR A CHANGE!

[heartbrand]

Again, if not this, what are other people's suggestions for the absolutely abysmal new player rate on this server with the ghost town environment and complete abcense of exp groups from 1-60? To say "deal with it" seems meh to me.

[Kergan]

A copy is just a free character. Everyone will do it because there is no downside. Even if you never log it in you might as well. Same reason I have like 5 max level characters in TERA and EQ2...they gave them away so I took the 10 seconds to login and create them.

You might see a higher population but it will completely lack substance. That number is meaningless if it isn't people competing and putting effort into the server. I could run around the office and install EQ on every computer and create a level 1. Boom, +50 population...but meaningless just like this would be.

[heartbrand]

I disagree with your belief on that. Not much more I can say but I respect your view nonetheless!