How twinking ruins EQ, and a solution.

[Potus]

Item loot doesn't fix twinks, and it allows twink pks to grief people with less gear and make them even worse.

Most pk twinks have either no drop gear or they kill themselves rather than be looted (spammed manastones).

TLDR You're never going to loot a fungi tunic.
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[Shaakglith12194]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item loot doesn't fix twinks, and it allows twink pks to grief people with less gear and make them even worse.

Most pk twinks have either no drop gear or they kill themselves rather than be looted (spammed manastones).

TLDR You're never going to loot a fungi tunic.
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This.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item loot doesn't fix twinks, and it allows twink pks to grief people with less gear and make them even worse.

Most pk twinks have either no drop gear or they kill themselves rather than be looted (spammed manastones).

TLDR You're never going to loot a fungi tunic.

Im sure it can be coded that you cant cheese your way out of a pvp death.

And yes the op has it right about item loot being less griefy than no item loot when you think it through and add custom no drop items to offset the harshness of item loot.

[Shaakglith12194]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im sure it can be coded that you cant cheese your way out of a pvp death.

And yes the op has it right about item loot being less griefy than no item loot when you think it through and add custom no drop items to offset the harshness of item loot.

And what do you think the chances are of adding custom no drop items to a server with less than 200 population that tries to be classic? I'm sure it would be real easy to make it so you can't "cheese your way out of a pvp death." They just have to make it so that you can't die to mobs, can't canni/lich/manastone yourself to death, can't get hit by your own AoEs/damage spells, and can't remove items with HP on them. Simple stuff, I'm sure. Problem isn't the game, it's the players.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Shaakglith12194 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure it would be real easy to make it so you can't "cheese your way out of a pvp death." They just have to make it so that you can't die to mobs, can't canni/lich/manastone yourself to death, can't get hit by your own AoEs/damage spells, and can't remove items with HP on them. Simple stuff, I'm sure. Problem isn't the game, it's the players.

As easy as Plyrdmg+70%=Plyercanloot im guessing

[Shaakglith12194]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As easy as Plyrdmg+70%=Plyercanloot im guessing

So if a monk is going toe to toe with someone and does 70% damage, they can just aggro a mob, FD and loot. 2 SKs double harm touch a player, get in a couple rounds of melee, aggro a mob, FD, and loot. Also have to account for pets so that they count for player damage. In none of those cases did the player get the kill, yet they can loot. Great solution.

[Fame]

didnt read, stay outta unrest

[chu]

bet i would

not often

but itd happen

[Kazi]

Just started my dude and never had any problems with the twink griefing OP claims is rampant. Everyone has been awesome, in fact. Maybe I'm lucky. Or maybe it's because no ones ever around.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Kazi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just started my dude and never had any problems with the twink griefing OP claims is rampant. Everyone has been awesome, in fact. Maybe I'm lucky. Or maybe it's because no ones ever around.

Go solo in Unrest and meet everyone's deleveled Rogue twink with a Ragebringer.

Which again, wouldn't be solved at all whatsoever with item loot. Except when he one-shots you he'll take your Dwarven Work Boots or your Oracle Robe and delete it just to be an asshole.