Who else doesn't care if some people buy early access into Velious?

[Nirgon]

Yeah heaven forbid you show your support for a game that won't be a WoW clone.

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, this invalidates the entire point he is making...

It won't be that hard to get several gems for one group of players. They may not have full sets, but they will be damn close i promise you that.

This is a valid concern for Guild B. A large part of a raid's viability is the gear that clerics and warriors are wearing. It is simply unfair for A to have access to raid gear and keys prior to B.

You should refrain from posting anything until you actually know what you're talking about. Just a suggestion, no need to blow a blood vessel on this one chief.

[formallydickman]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah heaven forbid you show your support for a game that claims it won't be a WoW clone.

fixed that for ya. We don't really know jack shit about what the game will actually turn out to be, if it ever even comes to fruition.

[tristantio]

Not everyone has an equal footing for available time to play the game (some have more work/life obligations) - isn't that what you're saying, that it's unfair some people can't afford the donation to play early?

If you can't afford it and it's that important (to complain about etc.) maybe take some of that time spent in EQ earning some real cash to get yourself that early access.

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by formallydickman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fixed that for ya. We don't really know jack shit about what the game will actually turn out to be, if it ever even comes to fruition.

I agree but I chose to support it for a chance that Brad and team don't make another fail WoW clone. It looks like 2,642 people agree with me so far. I've played almost every single MMO out there and the entire time I'm thinking about EQ1 before SOE ruined it with xpacs after PoP

[Dezik]

Originally Posted by shorttin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing you haven't actually read the multiple threads about this, because the affect this has on the server has been talked about to death. To recap:

Let's discuss a situation where there's Raid Guild A and Raid Guild B. Both of these guilds are full of players who play p99 for the competitive raiding scene. These guilds have been splitting the limited content of Kunark + Vanilla and have been waiting for years to compete where the game actually starts getting a bit more difficult - Velious.

But wait, Raid Guild A has a couple of very rich players. They buy 7 day Velious access for all of their Warriors and Clerics, as well as some Druids/Wizards and others. Raid Guild A then farms full sets of Kael and/or SS quest armor for themselves. Now their Warriors and Clerics have much better gear than Raid Guild B has been able to obtain. But that's not even the worst of it when you consider the keying situation in Velious. 90% of the raid content is in WW. To get there, you need to port to CS. But to be able to zone with the port, you need a key on your character, which is a ground spawn in CS - so you have to travel there before you can get ported there. The problem is that you need a key to get through SS into CS, which is a huge bottleneck when you're trying to get dozens of players through on day 1.

So, the real day 1 of Velious hits when everyone can zone in. Guild A is porting into CS while Guild B is waiting on the docks in Iceclad. By the time Guild B is running across Iceclad, Guild A is engaging on raid targets. The integrity of the day 1 raid competition is completely destroyed, because Guild A was able to take advantage of a 7 day headstart to bypass day 1 time sinks, bottlenecks, and gearing. This creates a snowball effect - now Guild A has quest gear, raid loot, ST keys, and all kinds of other advantages that will have an affect on the upcoming months of Velious raiding.

Yes, it is a problem and yes, it does affect people who aren't buying in.

Lol omg, how pathetic.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Artaenc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should refrain from posting anything until you actually know what you're talking about. Just a suggestion, no need to blow a blood vessel on this one chief.

Sorry for attempting to refute a point you made. Fuck me for trying.

At no point was I insulting or mad, why you feel the need to be.. idk.

[1203jjt]

Originally Posted by Shaakglith12194 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keys are the big thing. Keys to cobalt scar to pick up the ground spawn at the port in spots. As far as I see it, good. Let them get their keys so there are fewer people waiting in line to complete their key quest to get into CS. That'll mean I can get mine sooner. Gratz on spending big dollars to make my life easier.

+1

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry for attempting to refute a point you made. Fuck me for trying.

At no point was I insulting or mad, why you feel the need to be.. idk.

All I'm saying is get more info first if possible. Glad you didn't blow a blood vessel over my reply though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[NextGenesis88]

WTS a rats ass