GM's.. Are you listening?

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I've come to realize that the majority of people who start here just want some casual PVP and/or a faster exp rate. The way things are setup now actually may help retain some players believe it or not, as they can join Nihilum and don't have 3 hour PVP battles over every dragon. The die hards that come with blood lust are few and far between.

Most people never make it to the high end to see what its like, they are griefed off by untagged RD/Azrael alts in Unrest or MM. Sorry to turn this post somewhat inflammatory but I watched with my own two eyes the way the level 20-50 game is on this server as my brother solo'd up on his monk. He was basically followed into every nook and cranny of any outdoor Kunark exp zones by rangers like Exed and murdered, all the while being told to app to RD. Basically, join or die. Your guild causes as many if not more problems with this server population with that behavior, plus a couple choice murderbots in group friendly exp zones, then Nihilum does with their dominance and stranglehold of the top 1% of the game.

For all the shit you guys give Tune about murdering level 52s, he could have had a full VP geared warrior or rogue in Unrest obliterating everyone in site and never did, and so could many Nihilum members.

Nihi has many Unrest twinks, and who cares about that insignificant shit? Ugh you're fucking retarded.

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know HB - I think Nihilum is even more spineless and weak for taking apps they don't need just to spit in the opposition's face over some perceived slight.

You know I respect you Jeremy, but without personal attacks from either side let's get our points out there and not scare away the GM's from adding input..

I'm gonna say that you think the guilds could come to some type of agreement? I am not involved with blue as much as you. Has being forced to work together on blue helped make it better for EVERYONE?

- Oppressor

[Took]

Reset the box once a month randomly.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by mikemandella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kergan: You make some strong points. Thanks for contributing constructively!

I like your ideas to make it more fun and involving for new players. I think that's a better approach for sure.

I am trying follow what you are saying without putting words in your mouth. My observation from what you wrote is that you would say the biggest problem we have is a population one?

No problem. I want a better server too. Sorry to go off course a little bit on my last reply.

Originally Posted by mikemandella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) If we are trying to attract more casuals, what does the current endgame offer them?

Endgame does not apply to casual players in EverQuest honestly. If we want to define casual as 1 or 2 groupable content without high end gear, Velious will add loads of it. There are also PoH/PoF gear runs which are very doable by mediocre geared mid 50s and some epics are completable start to finish with a small crew.

Originally Posted by mikemandella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) What would you propose for keeping them here once they hit 52 and minimizing the burn and churn we all agree is a problem? Thanks again for your input!

Well, EQ is gonna be EQ man. If you don't want to farm gear, make alts and farm more gear...the PVE side of this game isn't for you. The good news is in the classic era through Velious the difference between a very good geared player and a decent geared character with droppable/quest reward stuff isn't nearly as big as other games or other eras in EQ.

Dynamic content is always a draw for people. The chance to win cosmetic/slightly useful prestige items like deceiver masks can make for some fun events. Maybe if we show the staff we're willing to support those type of events among ourselves they'll be more inclined to host more events for us with GM rewards?

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

End game isn't for everyone nor should it be.

A healthy server needs the bulk of people ok with farming, pvping and just playing non raid targets.

Thanks for adding input without flaming someone.

Elderan: Would you say this is the current end game we already have? Would you have any constructive input on how to improve it? (unless you don't think it needs improved ofcourse)

Thanks again for adding to the discussion.

- Oppressor

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihi has many Unrest twinks, and who cares about that insignificant shit? Ugh you're fucking retarded.

Pretty sure the groups of legit level 20s getting wrecked by Mrbigs cares a lot more about this "insignificant shit" then if RD has a shot at killing Trakanon this week.

But hey, everyone who starts here spawns as a level 60 with all their spells right? So that low level shit is just for show.

[Stasis01]

I've done low levels multiple times as I'm a more casual/alt type player, and most of the times it's empty zones that grief you, although FOH is pretty active in griefing lowbies in Guk area and that actually sucks because it's groups of players etc.

Chewie is usually the one supporting Nihi point of views, in terms of wanting things more grief/hardcoreish.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is a pretty good post. But my opinion is that you can't fix this server the way people are asking without double or triple the population, and what is going on with RD/Nihilum at the high end isn't what is causing population issues.

What I think we can do though is talk about some changes that may keep people involved once they decided to start here, implement some of those changes and then have some events to attempt to grow the population.

I'd say my first suggestion would be put the PVP range to +/- 4 like RZ.

Another would be to increase exp rate bonus from 1-50.

The third would be to get commitment from guild leadership of all major guilds to have guild sponsored events for the lower level population. Be it level 20-30 PVP tournaments (Mrbigs could be a boss mob..take him down and win a CoF or something), guild plvl events, item raffles, whatever. Do what it takes to change the outside opinions. Maybe get some blue players to reroll, who knows.

Probably not popular with a lot of people but whatever.

A larger population would just add to the zerg and lag problems when it was 100 vs 100 in two guilds since Nihilum recruits no matter what their numbers are. You say this server needs population but you should be able to do any encounter with 24 people logged in. Instead there are 40+. If Nizzar had the choice between 60 members and 100 he would choose 100. If Nihilum did the right thing and instead of becoming the power house number 1 zerg, tried to become the power house number 1 elite guild, the server could be fun.

You wouldn't be in Nihilum at that point, so there is some added competition to the server right there.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A larger population would just add to the zerg and lag problems when it was 100 vs 100 in two guilds since Nihilum recruits no matter what their numbers are. You say this server needs population but you should be able to do any encounter with 24 people logged in. Instead there are 40+. If Nizzar had the choice between 60 members and 100 he would choose 100. If Nihilum did the right thing and instead of becoming the power house number 1 zerg, tried to become the power house number 1 elite guild, the server could be fun.

You wouldn't be in Nihilum at that point, so there is some added competition to the server right there.

I get my DKP from forumquesting, I might make the cut if the Duke is feeling generous.

It's funny you're basically asking Nizzar to cut his shittiest members so RD can recruit them though.

I've said this a few times to your posts but it just seems to me you just don't like EverQuest man, maybe try a different game?

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by Took [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reset the box once a month randomly.

I am getting that general feeling too, atleast some type of "randomization" is needed.

Thanks for your input!

- Oppressor