Enchanter CHA over 200

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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aye but that post talks about 95 CHA vs 220 CHA.

I'm asking cause I'm over 200 now with gear and buff, and I always hear/read "over 200 for charming", I was wondering if 200 gave diminishing returns above it or just was irrelevant above it. Cause being able to swap out CHA gear for HP gear would be glorious for my survival.

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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aye but that post talks about 95 CHA vs 220 CHA.

I'm asking cause I'm over 200 now with gear and buff, and I always hear/read "over 200 for charming", I was wondering if 200 gave diminishing returns above it or just was irrelevant above it. Cause being able to swap out CHA gear for HP gear would be glorious for my survival.

Anecdotally I can tell you 200+ appears to have diminishing returns which is consistent with the thought that any stat over 200 will yield fewer benefits.

Haven't had time nor the motivation to quantify what that would be, however, because the risk to the enchanter (being as hard as a soft-boiled egg) is so great, any opportunity you can take to bring that stat to 255 would be a step in the right direction. In my opinion charisma for enchanters boosts some unseen number in much the same way that stamina, intelligence or wisdom would for the appropriate classes. The difference appears to really be in whether you can see it or conversely, whether you can quantify it (which you can't).

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I've posted it in another thread but I'll throw it in here too. I did not get my 30 something cha buff, I simply skipped it until I hit 49 (last night). Previous to this, my charisma was exactly 205 with my level 20 buff on (I want to say 187 unbuffed). Without giving you numbers I can definitely tell you sub-200 charisma is farrrrr worse for charm duration than even going for exactly 200. If I'm not paying attention and let my charisma buff drop by accident I will usually pound my head into my desk with short duration charms until I realize the buff wore off.

The difference between 205 and 227 (which is what I have now with 49 buff) is fairly negligible. I'm pretty sure I've noticed a difference but I couldn't tell you for certain.

Cool anecdotal evidence bro

[goshozal]

Currently at 252 CHA. I had made plans to get one more CHA piece and swap out 2 other slots for ac/hp/mana. Did the math and the final CHA was 254.

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[pasi]

The major benefit to maxxing Charisma is reducing critical pacify resists. If you're farming appropriately, charm breaks are a lot easier to handle than critical lull resists (other than charm breaks during a critical lull resist). Luckily, the stat benefits both categories, and most other stats are useless, so the choice is clear.

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The major benefit to maxxing Charisma is reducing critical pacify resists. If you're farming appropriately, charm breaks are a lot easier to handle than critical lull resists (other than charm breaks during a critical lull resist). Luckily, the stat benefits both categories, and most other stats are useless, so the choice is clear.

Agree. You can somewhat control your charm success by choosing an appropriately leveled mob to charm. With pacify, typically, you can't choose, so the higher your charisma, the better.

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i play my 60 chanter at 195unbuffed and 245 buffed and i stopped swapping out gear like 6+ months ago, really never seemed to make any difference in my opinion.