Thinking about coming back to level another toon - Need twink help to motivate me.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just started playing my sham about a year ago so not very familiar with them compared to other classes.

One thing I do know is that hp gear >>>> wis gear once you have canni.


Its a very unique class when compared to druids or clerics, so sacrificing wis/mana for hp may seem unnatural to those o us familiar with cler/dru but trust me its the right call.

Was reading the wiki and it made a very valid argument that mana > Hp

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by oldhead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was reading the wiki and it made a very valid argument that mana > Hp

Yeah it is deffinetly debateable but in my experiences having 4k hps to turn into mana to keep up with buffs/debuffs in groups or raids is amazingly helpful.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it is deffinetly debateable but in my experiences having 4k hps to turn into mana to keep up with buffs/debuffs in groups or raids is amazingly helpful.

Eh I'd argue HP is irrelevant (to a certain extent). So long as you have enough HP to outdo what Torpor heals, it isn't that important unless you are trying to AFK a lot. But if you are constantly using Canni to stay under 100% HP, and allowing your innate regen + Regrowth to do its thing, and you have enough HP to drop down to 30-40% and Torpor and then continue to Canni as Torpor ticks...

I mean 4k HP is fine and all, but having a larger mana pool means immediately available mana. Whereas HP is mana that you have to cast Canni and wait to get it.

This is from a grouping/raiding perspective. If you are soloing summoning mobs and stuff that changes however.

But this is an argument/debate that has been going on since Y2K. So I don't really expect it to be solved or change here. I just listed WIS/Mana gear because it is generally cheaper and more effective for grouping at lower levels (since you won't canni or tank).

[Shamen]

I like your class/race choice, Im Iksar shaman myself and loving it! Iksar are boss!

I see 2 ways of doing this. I would either spend all 40k to get items I know I would keep for a long time or I would spend as little as I can getting only the basic stuff and keep the rest to start fungi fund, because it is the single most important item you need as shaman. I would not buy epic MQ, because getting shaman epic is easy.

SPENDING:
- 2x Platinum Fire Wedding Ring (500p)
- Hooded Black Cloak (3k)
- Black Sapphire Platinum Necklace (5k)
- Sebilite Scale Coat (4k)
- Poison Wind Censer (1.5-2k)
- Howling Harpoon (4k)
- Black Sapphire Electrum Earring (3.5k - 4k)
- Earring of Essence (6k)
- Platinum Tiara (8k)

other suggestions: Kylong Gauntlets (4k), Obulus Death Shroud (4k), Jarsath rotts in KC (leggings, wrist guard, gauntlets), Mucilaginous Girdle (1.5k), Black Fur "clicky sow" Boots (if you can get help killing Black Dire), Broom of Trilon after you get pet at 34lvl, Golem Tear Ring (2k), Djarn's Amethyst Ring (12k), Supple Scale Armband rott or buy loot rights in KC,

SAVING:
- get full set of banded armor and pay someone 2k to help you turn it into Scaled Mystic Armor
- Poison Wind Censer (1.5-2k)
- 2x Platinum Fire Wedding Ring (500p)
- get more armor as you lvl, keep 36k and start saving for Fungi!

When I look back, judging from my experience, I would probabaly go the saving way. I mean all the nice gear with hp and other stats is cool, but you will get it eventually. Getting fungi is different story though and nothing will help you as much as this amazing piece of gear. it is 100k these days and who knows how much it will be when Velious comes out...getting it asap would probably be my priority.

[Verenity]

Buy an iksar ceremonial BP IMO: regen is so, so amazingly good on a shaman and regen items tend to keep their value so you can always resell it once you get in the territory to buy a fungi tunic.

I also highly recommend ogre shaman for many reasons that I'm sure you have already heard or know, so I won't bother to explain my reasoning. If you want to solo hard stuff, it's hard to beat the upside of ogre.

I'll sell ya a poison wind censer for cheap if you want it. Really good leveling weapon for a shaman. My only caveat is that you have to make your shaman an ogre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[syferis]

Be warned, Shamans are in abundance atm.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by syferis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be warned, Shamans are in abundance atm.

And they cost a F'ing ton to equip well. Think like 300k or more. They are stupid expensive to play. And you don't have time to take a piss on one in a group. But I sort of like mine at times. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zeonick]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And they cost a F'ing ton to equip well. Think like 300k or more. They are stupid expensive to play. And you don't have time to take a piss on one in a group. But I sort of like mine at times. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not true. You dont need a fungi and melee items to play a shaman. You could play it naked and root rot things all day. I started on this server as a shaman with out a copper in my pocket and am doing just fine with no twinking what so ever. I would say be warned that shamans are really boring in the early levels.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Zeonick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not true. You dont need a fungi and melee items to play a shaman. You could play it naked and root rot things all day. I started on this server as a shaman with out a copper in my pocket and am doing just fine with no twinking what so ever. I would say be warned that shamans are really boring in the early levels.

This is why I want a PL on my shaman from. 20-24.

At 24 Canni/Slow/Regen make playing a shaman far more interesting
At 34 more DoTs and pet make it even better
At 60 Torpor makes them OP as hell.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by syferis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be warned, Shamans are in abundance atm.

I know... but so are monks. At least shamans are a bit more welcomed in groups.


How are clerics?

Honestly I just want to group 100% of them time. Cant stand solo playing MMO's.