PNP clarification please

[Kergan]

Don't shit up my thread.

It was a legitimate question.

And in this case the healer did in fact leave and the group disbanded, rules were followed and no suspensions were issued. RIP lowbie exp group.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't shit up my thread.

It was a legitimate question.

And in this case the healer did in fact leave and the group disbanded, rules were followed and no suspensions were issued. RIP lowbie exp group.

Why would the lowbie exp group be any different if there was no PnP policy and the SK didn't want them there?

You do realize that the cleric can ask the SK if it is okay for him to stay and the exp group can continue.

The PnP is to protect the person who gets killed and that is it. If the victor wants to let them stay he can. If he didn't want him to stay he can tell him to leave or in the old system corpse camp him.

[chu]

cleric should uninstall while the rest of the group just watches

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would the lowbie exp group be any different if there was no PnP policy and the SK didn't want them there?

You do realize that the cleric can ask the SK if it is okay for him to stay and the exp group can continue.

The PnP is to protect the person who gets killed and that is it. If the victor wants to let them stay he can. If he didn't want him to stay he can tell him to leave or in the old system corpse camp him.

When did I ask what would happen without the PNP exactly? I simply asked for clarification on the PNP and you have made multiple posts telling me what would happen without the PNP. Seriously stop shitting up my thread with your propaganda. Are you that scared whenever a post that outlines a possible gray area/flaw with the PNP pops up that you must immediately take a giant dump on it?

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did I ask what would happen without the PNP exactly? I simply asked for clarification on the PNP and you have made multiple posts telling me what would happen without the PNP. Seriously stop shitting up my thread with your propaganda. Are you that scared whenever a post that outlines a possible gray area/flaw with the PNP pops up that you must immediately take a giant dump on it?

I answered your question and addressed your concern of how PnP was hurting the server. Allowing you to see how it would have played out the same with either system should put your mind at ease.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I answered your question and addressed your concern of how PnP was hurting the server. Allowing you to see how it would have played out the same with either system should put your mind at ease.

Where exactly did I express concern that PNP was hurting the server? I very simply asked for clarification of the PNP rules. You are drawing conclusions based on your own biased agenda. The fact of the matter is the cleric in this case who was a legitimate new player didn't even know about the PNP and after reading them he still wasn't sure how to act.

Seriously, I know you guys are being told by your handlers to do this but if you are going to answer a simple question by spewing propaganda just stay out of the thread so we can have a meaningful conversation ok?

[mcappy]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would the lowbie exp group be any different if there was no PnP policy and the SK didn't want them there?

You do realize that the cleric can ask the SK if it is okay for him to stay and the exp group can continue.

The PnP is to protect the person who gets killed and that is it. If the victor wants to let them stay he can. If he didn't want him to stay he can tell him to leave or in the old system corpse camp him.

Stupid logic.

What if someone else in the group WAS in range and made the SK run? Is the cleric just supposed to leave (essentially disbanding the group) because the SK is allowed to force LNS on them?

Killing one person in a group of 6 does not equal zone or camp control. I'm fairly certain it's already been established that someone who dies can return if their group was able to win the fight.

The question was how the PnP rules are enacted when level range makes it impossible for the rest of the group to fight back. If everyone was in range, it'd be an easy answer. But of course, these wonderful policies have all sorts of gray or entirely blank areas that didn't take into account leveling players (you know, the people that we'll need to stick around if we want the server population to rise).

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by mcappy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stupid logic.

What if someone else in the group WAS in range and made the SK run? Is the cleric just supposed to leave (essentially disbanding the group) because the SK is allowed to force LNS on them?

Killing one person in a group of 6 does not equal zone or camp control. I'm fairly certain it's already been established that someone who dies can return if their group was able to win the fight.

The question was how the PnP rules are enacted when level range makes it impossible for the rest of the group to fight back. If everyone was in range, it'd be an easy answer. But of course, these wonderful policies have all sorts of gray or entirely blank areas that didn't take into account leveling players (you know, the people that we'll need to stick around if we want the server population to rise).

If a group of 2 people attack 1 person and people die on both sides the victory goes to the team with someone still standing. In this case it is a 1 v 1 and the loser would need to leave if the victor forced it.

Very clear rules being muddied up by manipulative people or those with a learning disability.

The only rules I see in question that has good reason to needing a makeover is LnS policy in the middle of a mass fight. I am all for just not allowing it until a clear victor has won the fight and claimed control of a zone. The only issue is once one zone is under control how do you address looting and moving to the next zone which then becomes the new focus of contention. The zone dance is tough to police.

[Goobles]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't shit up my thread.

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[meatspin]

Cleric has to LNS. Refusing to LNS should = ban. Easy answer. The OOR people make no difference in this example.