PSA to Sirken: MASS PVP

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ryko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red Dawn is here... and Nihilum is going nowhere...

Loot'n'Scoot as it currently stands was manufactured for small pvp encounters and is being abused to sway battles in Mass PVP...

We need a separate, defined and deliberate ruleset for Mass PVP encounters... I feel that there will be many to come with two very large and very formidable guilds on Red99.

Please use this thread to discuss what you think rules should encompass... here's my belief.

LNS should be called by Guild Leaders. When a Guild Leader calls LNS it acts as a white flag or surrender.

At the point that LNS is called by a guild leader, fighting must cease... and the guild that called for LNS have full immunity to grab corpses and move on... they must leave asap and the winning guild must not attack them.
I know it will be hard... but please attempt to not shit up the thread too much... just post your opinion or criticism towards what I have portrayed.

Thank you.

i worry your system will just lead to endless bindrushing, and would become a battle of attrition, and that the outcome would not truly be decided by PVP

[Ryko]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i worry your system will just lead to endless bindrushing, and would become a battle of attrition, and that the outcome would not truly be decided by PVP

Noted, thank you for the concern, can't say I don't agree now that it was mentioned

[Twainz]

Originally Posted by Ryko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure Lite could supply a steady 5 hours rotation of toons, but I do see your point. Like I said, not saying my vision is perfect, but I don't think the forums can hold up if there's 48 new threads every time there's mass pvp

Lite and myself might have access to multiple lvl 60s but Nihilum have 3-4 lvl 60 VP geared toons each. That is a lot of waves to fight with 40 people that just started here and are half planar/half leather gear without lvl 60 or any good spells. Nizzar will never give up, that is why he won the box. But recently, his not giving up is getting more and more of his accounts suspended. Now he is tapping into retired players account to get them suspended.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i worry your system will just lead to endless bindrushing, and would become a battle of attrition, and that the outcome would not truly be decided by PVP

Pras Sirken voice of reason, lord of wit, master of wisdom.

[Labanen]

I think Sirken is correct on this one. But the OP does have a point about guild vs guild fights, its not ideal in the current system either, while it works reasonably well for smaller encounters.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i worry your system will just lead to endless bindrushing, and would become a battle of attrition, and that the outcome would not truly be decided by PVP

Just disable LNS on all raids...

[Ryko]

Originally Posted by Labanen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Sirken is correct on this one. But the OP does have a point about guild vs guild fights, its not ideal in the current system either, while it works reasonably well for smaller encounters.

Thank you Ruban, I attempted to make the thread in hopes people would improve upon my idea... I too agree with Sirken in retrospect, however I do believe whole heartedly that some people are taking rules meant toprotect and keep casual players involved, engaged and playing are being used as a tool of war in Mass PVP.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

[Ryko]

I see people every day putting themselves in vulnerable situations where an opposing force can easily break the rules...often on accident

Kinda like a really smoking hot cop going undercover as a prostitute... not fair

The same people that threaten to petition your every move

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Ryko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red Dawn is here... and Nihilum is going nowhere...

Loot'n'Scoot as it currently stands was manufactured for small pvp encounters and is being abused to sway battles in Mass PVP...

We need a separate, defined and deliberate ruleset for Mass PVP encounters... I feel that there will be many to come with two very large and very formidable guilds on Red99.

Please use this thread to discuss what you think rules should encompass... here's my belief.

LNS should be called by Guild Leaders. When a Guild Leader calls LNS it acts as a white flag or surrender.

At the point that LNS is called by a guild leader, fighting must cease... and the guild that called for LNS have full immunity to grab corpses and move on... they must leave asap and the winning guild must not attack them.
I know it will be hard... but please attempt to not shit up the thread too much... just post your opinion or criticism towards what I have portrayed.

Thank you.

Who makes the call to surrender for a guild if the leader is suspended for breaking server rules along with his number 2?

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just disable LNS on all raids...

I see what you are doing here... you want all server rules to go away the 3 hours a week Nihilum logs in.

Not going to fall for that one you sly dog you.