Rogean - Open Discussion for Forced PNP (Play Nice Policy)

[Ryko]

Originally Posted by Ryko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My historical recollection:

Fear raid(early days): red dawn members(azrael spy) de-guilds, azrael zones, wipes red dawn, sits on corpse

Hate raid(early days): Plane of hate, azrael ports in while red dawn is trained at entrance, whipes raid, beastagor feigns and waits on corpse... the "bad guys" Nihilum come to a call for help, remove azrael and rez red dawn to go on with there day.

CoM (ohhh goddddd COM): doing epic fight for patecatl. Azrael continuously griefs red dawn out of COM, for two days straight, one shotting rezzed player as soon as they zone in. finally whipe red dawn fully inside the temple. Tune and gang come to a call for help, clear out Azrael, rez red dawn and push the fight out into EJ where Lite and Stasis persistently swooped in.

GUILD Bind during hate: American, and pals corpse camp people as they die in Hate for ohhh..... 3 hours?

Forumquest: Nizzar states: do not raid/group with Azrael or there will consequences, we disregard...

Fear Rihilum zones into fear out numbered... kills Red Dawn at the entrance... and what do the evil bad guys do... Let us LNS and leave us alone to clear Hate...


To be fair... i stopped paying attention/giving a fuck after that fateful day.... i hear that Nihilum has been nasty since then, but from what I read, it seems to be random gank squads partaking in open world PVP on an open world PVP server...

LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELERS!!!! thos are mine

Also keep in fucking mind.... I... yes ME... I am a new player here.... I am this Golden carrot on a stick that you claim to be chasing

[k9quaint]

Originally Posted by Ryko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My historical recollection:

Fear raid(early days): red dawn members(azrael spy) de-guilds, azrael zones, wipes red dawn, sits on corpse

Hate raid(early days): Plane of hate, azrael ports in while red dawn is trained at entrance, whipes raid, beastagor feigns and waits on corpse... the "bad guys" Nihilum come to a call for help, remove azrael and rez red dawn to go on with there day.

CoM (ohhh goddddd COM): doing epic fight for patecatl. Azrael continuously griefs red dawn out of COM, for two days straight, one shotting rezzed player as soon as they zone in. finally whipe red dawn fully inside the temple. Tune and gang come to a call for help, clear out Azrael, rez red dawn and push the fight out into EJ where Lite and Stasis persistently swooped in.

GUILD Bind during hate: American, and pals corpse camp people as they die in Hate for ohhh..... 3 hours?

Forumquest: Nizzar states: do not raid/group with Azrael or there will consequences, we disregard...

Fear Rihilum zones into fear out numbered... kills Red Dawn at the entrance... and what do the evil bad guys do... Let us LNS and leave us alone to clear Hate...


To be fair... i stopped paying attention/giving a fuck after that fateful day.... i hear that Nihilum has been nasty since then, but from what I read, it seems to be random gank squads partaking in open world PVP on an open world PVP server...

LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELERS!!!! thos are mine

Nihilum griefs us because of our stance on variance. After Nihilum declared there would be no more XP groups for us, we started the peace process with Azrael.

[Ryko]

Originally Posted by k9quaint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum griefs us because of our stance on variance. After Nihilum declared there would be no more XP groups for us, we started the peace process with Azrael.

Thank you, something i had overlooked, trying to wrap my feebel mind around all this nonsense.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Ryko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My historical recollection:

Fear raid(early days): red dawn members(azrael spy) de-guilds, azrael zones, wipes red dawn, sits on corpse

Hate raid(early days): Plane of hate, azrael ports in while red dawn is trained at entrance, whipes raid, beastagor feigns and waits on corpse... the "bad guys" Nihilum come to a call for help, remove azrael and rez red dawn to go on with there day.

CoM (ohhh goddddd COM): doing epic fight for patecatl. Azrael continuously griefs red dawn out of COM, for two days straight, one shotting rezzed player as soon as they zone in. finally whipe red dawn fully inside the temple. Tune and gang come to a call for help, clear out Azrael, rez red dawn and push the fight out into EJ where Lite and Stasis persistently swooped in.

GUILD Bind during hate: American, and pals corpse camp people as they die in Hate for ohhh..... 3 hours?

Forumquest: Nizzar states: do not raid/group with Azrael or there will consequences, we disregard...

Fear Rihilum zones into fear out numbered... kills Red Dawn at the entrance... and what do the evil bad guys do... Let us LNS and leave us alone to clear Hate...


To be fair... i stopped paying attention/giving a fuck after that fateful day.... i hear that Nihilum has been nasty since then, but from what I read, it seems to be random gank squads partaking in open world PVP on an open world PVP server...

LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELERS!!!! thos are mine

We made it clear. Ally with Azrael and things will get bad. But even with that I cannot think of a time we camped your corpses. Except we will camp any char checkraise of stasis is on. Because their raging is really fun.

Checkraise is hard to kill though, he either hammers or runs away from pvp if the fight is certain to lose.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We made it clear. Ally with Azrael and things will get bad. But even with that I cannot think of a time we camped your corpses. Except we will camp any char checkraise of stasis is on. Because their raging is really fun.

Checkraise is hard to kill though, he either hammers or runs away from pvp if the fight is certain to lose.

You did the same to Heresy, Force, FF, Holocaust, Red Dawn, Azrael. Really, is there any guild that you have treated without this strategy?

We know why you do it, it's to decrease morale/discourage people from contesting, playing, and forcing people to either join you or quit.

Unfortunately, even when a guild has no chance of competing you will still resort to this (Heresy, Force, RD etc) and it is more of a statement.

It sucks that many good Nihi players don't know that Tune spends all day running around griefing lowbies, which unfortunately is his right as part of an open world MMO like this - where GM's can step in without being overburden with policing the box is dealing with LARGE scale PVP where anywhere from 30-50 corpses can be sat on.

These situations are rare, and with FRAPS/SS proof if Nihilum decides to sit on their corpses all day to force them to quit, GM's can intervene.

It has been proven that no matter how hard the opposing guild tries - the end result is always the same Elderan. Is Nihilum really anti - anything that will make this place more fun for people NOT in Nihilum?

This is exactly the attitude we cannot change without GM support pals.

[magician]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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This is Red Dawn and Azrael resing up Nihi members not more than a few days ago - HB has told his members that griefing is not allowed. He PL's/Helps EQ Mac players and the VP geared resident guild responds by griefing, corpse camping, and shit talking.

This is not an unrealistic request - and Red Dawn has put forth every effort to be civilized with these people. We need GM's help to clean up the red99 act.

Whats your fuckin point. I rezzed up a full group of red dawn lowbies in seb 2 weeks ago after we killed them. Stop being a sad, fat, depressed jail guard.

[evilldacbane]

Guilds rezzing others guilds makes me sick.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by evilldacbane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guilds rezzing others guilds makes me sick.

yeah i mean my goal in everquest is to force you not to be able to play everquest

DISGUSTING

[heartbrand]

A guild shouldn't need incentives or reasons to give the common courtesy of LNS. I've given all my opponents LNS regardless of tag or dislike for them. It makes the game more fun and enjoyable and encourages pvp. Some people though, likely suffering from lack of fulfillment in real life, find naked pvp to be the pinnacle of pvp. This is where I'd make idle threats about turning the tables but in fact I won't because I believe that by being the bigger man we can change the attitude on this server one player at a time.

The picture stasis linked is one example of slowing switching the way players think here to be less toxic. I don't know why some people associate CC'ing with pvp, it's akin to gunning people down in CS who have no weapons and then bragging about your kdr, but that's their choice I guess.

This may seem strange to some, but some of us can pvp and have fun and not look at it like a battle of life and death. You don't play basketball and then piss on your opponent after the game, steal his basketball and sneakers so he can't play again. You shake hands and go good game bro.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A guild shouldn't need incentives or reasons to give the common courtesy of LNS. I've given all my opponents LNS regardless of tag or dislike for them. It makes the game more fun and enjoyable and encourages pvp. Some people though, likely suffering from lack of fulfillment in real life, find naked pvp to be the pinnacle of pvp. This is where I'd make idle threats about turning the tables but in fact I won't because I believe that by being the bigger man we can change the attitude on this server one player at a time.

The picture stasis linked is one example of slowing switching the way players think here to be less toxic. I don't know why some people associate CC'ing with pvp, it's akin to gunning people down in CS who have no weapons and then bragging about your kdr, but that's their choice I guess.

This may seem strange to some, but some of us can pvp and have fun and not look at it like a battle of life and death. You don't play basketball and then piss on your opponent after the game, steal his basketball and sneakers so he can't play again. You shake hands and go good game bro.

You talk big, but then you ally with the WORST offenders on the server when it comes to pvp griefing.

You have given your guild ZERO credibility on this topic now.