Sirken locks thread before I can say good call

[Vandy]

So FE stale kites... broken rule

BDA tags because above rule is broken which turns out to be another rule being broken.
2nd rule being broken completely negates first rule being broken? Must have been written to the same sector of the hard drive, no way to prove the first rule was broken due to overwrites.... gg

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Vandy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So FE stale kites... broken rule

BDA tags because above rule is broken which turns out to be another rule being broken.
2nd rule being broken completely negates first rule being broken? Must have been written to the same sector of the hard drive, no way to prove the first rule was broken due to overwrites.... gg

Yep and if kiting was easier to prove people wouldn't try and peel. Which now probably isn't a great idea, as they would just look at logs and say that you KS'd a pull and then raid suspended you a few days later for KSing. Which makes it far more favorable to just stall kite and then just blame it on being lost lol

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Vandy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So FE stale kites... broken rule

BDA tags because above rule is broken which turns out to be another rule being broken.
2nd rule being broken completely negates first rule being broken? Must have been written to the same sector of the hard drive, no way to prove the first rule was broken due to overwrites.... gg

There was no kite because BDA pulled Draco off before any kite was initiated - it was straight pulled to Westwall and tanked; whether or not there would have been a kite if they did not is the only question here. You cannot pull a mob off before there is a kite claiming that there would have been a kite.

Personally I think that not having a raidforce in the zone should disqualify a guild from claiming the mob, however the server rules do not agree with me. My father has yelled at me about this numerous times. People who want to raid on this server should have learned long ago that the prerequisite to doing so is being able to separate your RL ethics and morals from your virtual ones. Idealism and principles mean nothing when the rules of the game do not recognize them.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was no kite because BDA pulled Draco off before any kite was initiated - it was straight pulled to Westwall and tanked; whether or not there would have been a kite if they did not is the only question here. You cannot pull a mob off before there is a kite claiming that there would have been a kite.

Personally I think that not having a raidforce in the zone should disqualify a guild from claiming the mob, however the server rules do not agree with me. My father has yelled at me about this numerous times. People who want to raid on this server should have learned long ago that the prerequisite to doing so is being able to separate your RL ethics and morals from your virtual ones. Idealism and principles mean nothing when the rules of the game do not recognize them.

Do not peel a kite, it's something you do when you're frustrated. Kiting gives you the upper hand and having a guild peel your kite means you've just won.


Also, p99 raiding is about not wanting your time wasted. Huge amounts of time invested for each raid target (tracking) so no one wants that to go to waste. Everyone plays like their time is more valuable to them than the competitions. It's not so much that you leave your morals, it's just that they get in the way far to often and not very many people are going to keep their morals so they can waste more time.

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who want to raid on this server should have learned long ago that the prerequisite to doing so is being able to separate your RL ethics and morals from your virtual ones. Idealism and principles mean nothing when the rules of the game do not recognize them.

So that's what I've been doing wrong, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was no kite because BDA pulled Draco off before any kite was initiated - it was straight pulled to Westwall and tanked; whether or not there would have been a kite if they did not is the only question here. You cannot pull a mob off before there is a kite claiming that there would have been a kite.

he pulled it to his raid right? oh wait

if you aren't pulling it to a raid then it's A KITE, holy shit why is that so hard to understand?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he pulled it to his raid right? oh wait

if you aren't pulling it to a raid then it's A KITE, holy shit why is that so hard to understand?

If there was no raid to pull to...is it a kite?

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he pulled it to his raid right? oh wait

if you aren't pulling it to a raid then it's A KITE, holy shit why is that so hard to understand?

Wrong. It's a kite if you fail to take the most direct path to a camp where the target will be engaged (unless it's Talendor, in which case you can do several figure 8's around VP entrance and then run along the wall opposite of your camp). You don't need anyone else in the zone as "Sufficient raid force" is not a requisite for killing a target.

I know raiding is something very new and novel to BDA, however please respect the server rules regarding FTE.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. It's a kite if you fail to take the most direct path to a camp where the target will be engaged (unless it's Talendor, in which case you can do several figure 8's around VP entrance and then run along the wall opposite of your camp). You don't need anyone else in the zone as "Sufficient raid force" is not a requisite for killing a target.

I know raiding is something very new and novel to BDA, however please respect the server rules regarding FTE.

You're an idiot

[Handull]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he pulled it to his raid right? oh wait

if you aren't pulling it to a raid then it's A KITE, holy shit why is that so hard to understand?

confirmed, solo/duo players must fight all mobs at their spawn points, not allowed to pull to a safe area

confirmed, 30 man raid required to kill draco