Spies among us?

[indiscriminate_hater]

incoming tinfoil hatters

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you knew anything about what the culture is actually like @ MSFT you would realize that your tin hat has caught fire. PII (or Personally identifiable information) is at the very forefront of concern when developing ANY feature. The negative press that comes from even the accidental gathering of this data is so devastating that there are entire sections of specs devoted to making sure that we don't log / collect / consume the data - we use it as a pass-thru to whatever is requesting it in most cases.

If you should be worrying about anything, it's the actual games that you're playing that utilize the technology MSFT provides.

If you're worried about XBOX ONE, I'd suggest reading the terms of service and how MSFT can use that data. Trust me, someone WILL read it and they WILL make sure we are abiding by the ToS through wire-sniffers and what-have-you. A big company like that just can't afford to make such a huge blunder with so much scrutiny.

And before you go blabbing about 'secret back doors' you better believe a developer would know of ANY entry point into their code that scoops data. It's just not possible.

Sorry just really hate spew of misinformation.

this makes me question why microsoft would put the technology on the devices in the first place.

[applesauce25r624]

this might explain all the fuckin bots in random BGs :[

[Spitty]

Because, underneath all the ill-use cases and complete freakout paranoia, there's good and useful applications to realtime telemetry.

Location can be used to optimize matchmaking in FPS games, for instance.

Heart-rate increases can be tied to an increase in volume or change in tempo in a background audio track - a game can mimic the actual intensity felt in realtime, furthering the level of immersion experienced.

And the Kinect can track your location in your living room so you can beat the living fuck out of flying fruit.

It's pretty simple, really.

[planeofdreams]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you knew anything about what the culture is actually like @ MSFT you would realize that your tin hat has caught fire.

August confirmed spy. :P

[August]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this makes me question why microsoft would put the technology on the devices in the first place.

What Spitty said.

You can extend that logic to almost anything and conclude that nothing is safe and no progress should be made, ever. Then again, we are all playing a 14 year old game.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What Spitty said.

You can extend that logic to almost anything and conclude that nothing is safe and no progress should be made, ever. Then again, we are all playing a 14 year old game.

i understand what spitty said and agree with it. i just don't see the viability of most of the technology other than as a "look at what we did" marketing type of thing, or as a "we'll help you get immersed more so than ever before."

this gen of consoles is going to suck because of the nintendo wii.

[Langrisserx]

this war on terror is really fun.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this gen of consoles is going to suck because of the nintendo wii.

Do they have Fruit Ninja for the Wii?

CHECK. MATE.

Levity aside, very few of the features on the modern consoles are marketing gimmicks.

Well, let me clarify. They didn't start as marketing gimmicks.

If you've ever been part of a concept-to-market process, there's this step that happens towards the end. After the think-tanks have conceptualized, after the designers have hypothesized, after the engineers have actualized, but before the public has any idea of what's going on.

That step is marketing.

Marketing takes all that cool shit that dozens or hundreds or thousands of people have been working on, and they sit in a room and ask other marketing people The Question.

"It's cool, but how do we sell it?"

Nobody prior to this step has any fucking say in how their ingenuity is presented to the public. If they do, it's on a consultation basis which essentially means "come talk about what you've loved and labored over for a couple years so we validate your work, but don't expect us to actually listen".

This is how the Xbox One reveal ended up being SPORTS x 1000, TV x 1000 and Call of Duty was reduced to neat camouflage and a canine companion.

This happens constantly. All those engineers that made pixel technology capable of displaying a billion colors start grave-spinning early because the only thing you hear about come market time is "LOOK HOW GODDAMN BLACK IT IS".

I'm absolutely sure that the geniuses up north had some fucking amazing ideas when they were slaving over figuring out how to get a 3D rendering of a person to translate to a heartbeat sensor. The result was a brief mention in the reveal, and a shitbox full of paranoia over how They Know™.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're worried about XBOX ONE, I'd suggest reading the terms of service and how MSFT can use that data. Trust me, someone WILL read it and they WILL make sure we are abiding by the ToS through wire-sniffers and what-have-you. A big company like that just can't afford to make such a huge blunder with so much scrutiny.

And before you go blabbing about 'secret back doors' you better believe a developer would know of ANY entry point into their code that scoops data. It's just not possible.

Sorry just really hate spew of misinformation.

Riiiight.... you think everyone operates within the confines of legal documentation and smallprint. I'd double check that.