Critical Suggestions for Raid Rules

[Bones]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-Boss DT's everyone in the zone and full repops the zone on SPAWN.

I like this.

[Starklen]

Fear already fully repops on a CT spawn.

[maximum]

Solution: do something else (tradeskills, alts, go outside) while waiting for airplane and Kunark

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by Virtuosos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

more randomized spawning, change it and dont tell anybody about it....could be fun to kill CT and while working out loot, have him pop again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not telling anyone won't work as some of the people who would be doing the actual coding are in the guilds causing the problems.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not telling anyone won't work as some of the people who would be doing the actual coding are in the guilds causing the problems.

Nope. Coding has nothing to do with the knowledge of npcs spawning.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a constructive thread to add constructive ideas for a raid system to end perma camping.


I will start with some ultra radical ideas!


-remove loot from raid bosses
-make raid zones open/racial PVP
-Boss DT's everyone in the zone and full repops the zone on SPAWN.
-increase raid size definition to be 30 instead of 15.
-AFK disconnects/banish.
-increase boss spawns by number/rate
-open another server
-instanced zones that take plat to activate for guilds



If you would like to flame please create a thread in R&F. I would be interested in seeing some out of the box thinking.

None of these involve less work for us. And we as the dev staff do not support any of these suggestions.

The raid situation is a player problem, not a development problem or bug. The current ruleset is in place because folks can't act like 7 year olds and not fight over the toys.

And Darkblade, enjoy your 30 day ban for trolling. You've been warned enough. You seriously need to shut your mouth on subjects you have not a damn clue as to the workings of.

[rioisk]

*pulls out the popcorn* Another raid thread!

No but seriously total randomization = more extensive poopsocking. Everybody here must realize that many people returning to EQ classic after 10 years are diehards. These sad people have minimal existence outside the game - they live to poopsock. No system aside from forced rotation will stop their ruthless efforts to get gear on an emulated server from 10 years ago.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of these involve less work for us. And we as the dev staff do not support any of these suggestions.

The raid situation is a player problem, not a development problem or bug. The current ruleset is in place because folks can't act like 7 year olds and not fight over the toys.

And Darkblade, enjoy your 30 day ban for trolling. You've been warned enough. You seriously need to shut your mouth on subjects you have not a damn clue as to the workings of.

There are a couple that really only involve the players. But i am trying to scratch up some ideas...even bad ones...that might spark something we are missing.

Honestly the more that i talk to people about it the more things become clear.

There are two root issues with the raids. You have either Rotation or a FTC(first to camp). The FTC, which is our current system is only going to be effective until there are enough guilds to permacamp every raid boss. Once that happens then a rotation will go into place and perhaps then we can get the spawn timer to be 5-7 days instead of 5-9 with a 2 hour engagement window. Camping will only be for those guilds that the spawn belongs to but the fact is that guilds like Trans/Remedy/Divinity have no plan to get up at 3am to kill Gods/Dragons. So something like this *could* work.

[Straif]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And Darkblade, enjoy your 30 day ban for trolling. You've been warned enough. You seriously need to shut your mouth on subjects you have not a damn clue as to the workings of.

Aeolwind to Darkblade
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bahahahaha!

[Skope]

But even with the rules we have now we've seen GM interference, and the majority of it stemming from the two guilds who are doing all the camping. Considering the kind of crap we've seen (from ninjalooting, to training and intentional zone crashing) nothing short of some serious ban hammers or a guild disband will teach them to play nice.