strange duo question

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by nndiro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as i said, i still need to "discover" the class in order to complement the necro as well as it would be possible.

I don't see where you said this before in the thread.

If you're looking for the best compliment to a necro, shaman is the easy answer with any of the other casters (including another necro) working relatively well also.

[nndiro]

appreciate it, but i'm really exited to roll a bard. already had a shaman on live, so this will be a "new experience", which is kind of cool to say on a 14 y/o game
my main concern was the..."having to be the tank" on the first levels. i do not know how well the bard can take a punch and i still need toget a hold of the songs and the attack.. so.. i'm looking forward to start, though i must say, i'm a bit scared, lol :P

[Mandalore93]

Necro and bard have a lot more synergy at pretty much all levels. Necros also have area of effect spells when you want to stomp through levels by kiting. Wizards and bards do ok outside of PBAE by mesmerizing and the wizard DDs

[Tenlaar]

A tip for you (and anybody else who might look) about getting money for gear at lower levels - once you are in your mid-upper teens and can AE mez, go to the orcs in Highpass. You'll get decent xp, and there's a good chance you can walk away with both a shralok pack and a brass idol. Do that once and sell them, you have 5/55 rings. Do it one again, you have a partisan. A third time and you have a MM battle drum, a lute of the gypsy princess, and all your songs up to level 30.

[Crosswind]

Well eff, it seems like I'm totally wrong!

-Cross (...c'mon, soooomething has to go well with a wizard. If it's not a class that has boatloads of utility, minus ports, and superlative AOE kiting abilities, wtf is it?)

[Estu]

Bard+wizard is great EXP and you never have to take hits. Pull an entire zone with the bard (later on, with JBoots + Staff of Temperate Flux, the wizard can help too), then have the bard get low HP (this gives an enormous amount of aggro so the wizard doesn't get hit) by self-dotting, then train through the wizard and have the wizard time a PBAE so that it hits the monsters just as they're going by. Do this several times and the monsters will all die. The beauty of this is that you can take down entire zones at once (assuming the monsters are all dark blue) and it's a lot easier on the bard's hand than actual solo bard kiting, and no one ever has to take any hits from monsters. It's incredibly fast EXP. The downside is that bard+wizard don't have a whole lot to do other than that.

Another good (though different and much slower EXP) duo would be druid+rogue or something similar. The druid snares the monster and maintains aggro with nukes/snares/debuffs/dots, the rogue backstabs to his heart's content. Again, no one takes hits. It's also a more casual method of EXPing than the bard+wiz method mentioned above.

Bard+necro obviously have a lot of options and good synergy together. They're both super-versatile classes. An easy way to avoid having to take any damage would be to fear kite. The necro keeps the monster feared and snared while the bard runs after it hitting it and using DoT songs. Again, way slower EXP than bard+wizard, but again, more casual, and you have a lot of options (can head into dungeons, can group well with others, can try different methods of EXP). Someone above mentioned necro AE; I don't know what necros have for PBAE spells but my impression was that their arsenal of AE spells is pretty weak/sparse. I've never seen a necro as a DPSer in an AE group and I've never heard of bard+necro PBAE duos.

[Tenlaar]

Necro's have PBAoEs at 20, 29, and 39. So one could still contribute to big kites through the 40's.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Necro's have PBAoEs at 20, 29, and 39. So one could still contribute to big kites through the 40's.

If you were really doing ae kiting with a bard+necro duo, you'd be best off with the necro using low hp aggro (and lich line to stay that way) to kite the mobs while the bard spams AE songs on them with relative impunity.

[Tenlaar]

I agree that would be more efficient, for the most part. I was just point out that they do have about a 20-25ish level range where the necro could help with AEs if that's how they preferred doing it.

[Nytch]

Necro/Druid, just root rot the crap out of everything....plus sports!

The druid can supply the necro with food and water and as well as sell in good aligned cities.

If you are going bard Wiz why not change the Wiz out for a druid, same ports and better buffs, you can still AOE with a druid just not as well, unless you plan on raiding then go Wiz.