Serious lack of tanks here

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Morningbreath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know the devs...slavishly stick to the original server progression but it's really hard to find a tank these days. Monks, rogues and rangers are everywhere but actual plate tanks don't seem to be around. I did some /who all checks last night and I could almost count the plate classes in a 7-level range on one hand.

The choices for people wanting to play a tank kind of stink. You either play a warrior with nothing but his gear and taunt/kick for abilities or go sk/pal with that GODAWFUL hybrid exp penalty.

Plate armor of any kind is overpriced and overly rare. It takes high smithing to make and in regular gameplay situations you'll not even get to play just because the groups out there have already settled on a monk/ranger to "tank".

What's odd is even back in the day the game was packed to the gills with warriors especially. Finding tanks at low-mid level wasn't a problem either.

couple things. firstly, anon (/a) players do not show up in your /w all searches. secondly, as someone else mentioned, people are smarter this time around. a lot of people went warrior back in the day because they were young, and it seemed like a pretty easy and straight forward class.

good luck !

[Elerion]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

couple things. firstly, anon (/a) players do not show up in your /w all searches. secondly, as someone else mentioned, people are smarter this time around. a lot of people went warrior back in the day because they were young, and it seemed like a pretty easy and straight forward class.

good luck !

Yeah, I'm sure there are tons of /anon plate tanks leveling up. All that whining for buffs and ports gets annoying, and they don't want tells for groups anyway.

Oh wait.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Elerion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I'm sure there are tons of /anon plate tanks leveling up. All that whining for buffs and ports gets annoying, and they don't want tells for groups anyway.

Oh wait.

said the person who can not see through /anon, to the person that actually can see through /anon

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[DrKvothe]

When velious comes out, hybrid penalties are gone, right? And iksar warriors will have some armor worth wearing? And warriors will become the more dominant raid tank class?

Each of those is an additional reason to roll a tanky class.

If you can't find someone tanky, blame your monk for not having WR bags or for actually wanting to loot! If he stays at or under 14 stones, you'll be fine!

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

said the person who can not see through /anon, to the person that actually can see through /anon

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I thought about giving him the current /who all x vs. /who all count x numbers, but I figured he was a lost cause.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

said the person who can not see through /anon, to the person that actually can see through /anon

Anon does not block the ability to see how many people are online.

/who all count works just fine.

[Laugher]

I've had monks, rangers etc. tank for my groups, even in our late 40s in lguk and early 50s, in lguk had a ranger tanking frenzy camp for 2-3 days straight wtih no wiping. In my lower levels on my rogue (about a month ago) I was seeing 1-2 rangers in 2/3 groups I got, and they were tanking fine. They are around but I see them far more frequently at lower levels, perhaps as alts that don't necessarily make the high end (and judging by the gear of many of them I would guess this is the situation.) I don't see as many warriors as knight classes potentially because knight classes hold aggro better pre 37, and yes while I do make comments about xp snare (see earlier in the thread) I will admit some of the best tanks I've had here are not warriors but hybrids (rangers even) or monks.

*edit* a good hybrid imo can compensate for the xp snare by being more effective with stuns, aggro, snares and/or dps than a straight warrior

[Elerion]

Originally Posted by Elerion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I'm sure there are tons of /anon plate tanks leveling up. All that whining for buffs and ports gets annoying, and they don't want tells for groups anyway.

Oh wait.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

said the person who can not see through /anon, to the person that actually can see through /anon

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Count looks through anon, doesn't it?

So, let's check. 573 players online, of which 205 between 20 and 50.

/who all warrior 20 50? 10 guys
/who all warrior 20 50 count? 12 guys

/who all shad 20 50? 8 guys
/who all shad 20 50 count? 10 guys

/who all paladin 20 50? 5 guys
/who all paladin 20 50 count? 5 guys

So out of 27 plate tanks online between level 20 and 50, 4 of them were anon. That's 15% of them.

Some other classes in the same level range?
Clerics? 11 visible, 17 total. 35% anon.
Druids? 17 visible, 31 total. 45% anon.
Wizards? 8 visible, 12 total. 33% anon.
Shamans? 15 visible, 21 total. 29% anon.

When you get into prime raiding levels, you'll obviously see a lot of anon tanks. But while leveling up, my point stands up to scrutiny.

[Barahir]

Originally Posted by Elerion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Count looks through anon, doesn't it?

So, let's check. 573 players online, of which 205 between 20 and 50.

/who all warrior 20 50? 10 guys
/who all warrior 20 50 count? 12 guys

/who all shad 20 50? 8 guys
/who all shad 20 50 count? 10 guys

/who all paladin 20 50? 5 guys
/who all paladin 20 50 count? 5 guys

So out of 27 plate tanks online between level 20 and 50, 4 of them were anon. That's 15% of them.

Some other classes in the same level range?
Clerics? 11 visible, 17 total. 35% anon.
Druids? 17 visible, 31 total. 45% anon.
Wizards? 8 visible, 12 total. 33% anon.
Shamans? 15 visible, 21 total. 29% anon.

When you get into prime raiding levels, you'll obviously see a lot of anon tanks. But while leveling up, my point stands up to scrutiny.

Why didn't you list the rangers that were everywhere?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Elerion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I'm sure there are tons of /anon plate tanks leveling up. All that whining for buffs and ports gets annoying, and they don't want tells for groups anyway.

Oh wait.

Throw the guy under the bus if you want to. He has a valid point.