Help non soloable classes - Page 2

stormlord · #1 11-26-2009, 06:02 AM

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He has a point. It's not beating a dead horse. The horse isn't dead. It's alive and well. Until we can boast 2500-3500 online players, then this horse will be alive and eating our grasses (and pooping in the forums).

Since I want to see an accurate picture of 1999, I want to make the best of it. Maybe we can work around it in ways not thought of before. Or maybe we can appreciate things we otherwise wouldn't have.

We always talk about "community", but what does that really mean? We depend on eachother now more than we did in 1999.

karsten · #2 11-26-2009, 06:03 AM

i'm a paladin, one of the worst solo classes in the game. I leveled to 50 in full groups all the way from crushbone to solb, and, being from a pvp server where skins are thicker, I alienated every groupmember that I felt sucked at eq, gaining me the admiration and love of most of my peers, aka potential groupmates. In other words, if I can get groups (and i mentioned in other threads that I often made my own -- being proactive helps) then anyone should be able to.

less QQ dude, more PEW PEW

Halladar · #3 11-26-2009, 03:20 PM

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i'm a paladin, one of the worst solo classes in the game. I leveled to 50 in full groups all the way from crushbone to solb, and, being from a pvp server where skins are thicker, I alienated every groupmember that I felt sucked at eq, gaining me the admiration and love of most of my peers, aka potential groupmates. In other words, if I can get groups (and i mentioned in other threads that I often made my own -- being proactive helps) then anyone should be able to.

less QQ dude, more PEW PEW

Yeah. You started on this server early right? You had a lot of cohorts in each level range.

It is different now.

And unless my guess is wrong it will be even more difficult at the low levels in a couple of months.

Tristin · #4 01-24-2010, 06:16 AM

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less QQ dude, more PEW PEW

this

eqravenprince · #5 11-26-2009, 11:31 AM

I would say have a soloing class that you can play at all times, but be on the lookout for groups around your non soloing classes level. Perhaps your character that can solo levels faster and can twink your non soloing class a bit.

Sloth · #6 11-26-2009, 11:48 AM

I can't stand being lfg so. I always start my own groups. Its the best way to do it. If you build it they will come.

Halladar · #7 11-26-2009, 12:05 PM

That works sometimes.

But that depends on:

1) You are in one of the areas everyone always goes. No pathing, train issues. Easy to get to. Good xp.

2) There is someone in the right level range to come.

It is decent (not great) at lower levels now. But 2 isn't going to be true for you in about 2 months if you are not in your late 30's or in the 40's.

Cribanox · #8 11-26-2009, 12:50 PM

No matter how much you say "man up, make your own groups, try and experience the content solo", it still bowls down to not having enough players near you to form a group, and it being too hard to solo as a warrior. Bind wound can only get you so far.

Also I don't like the way you guys are describing this trickle down effect for the economy, not only is the gear not that great and probably way too expensive for the warrior to even consider... but youre assuming hes just gonna wait for everyone else in the game to become uber just so he can get their throw away gear?

I dont think that we should put extra hp regen in the game while youre out of combat or anything, but I dont see whats wrong with at least letting bind wound goto 100% health or something.

Widan · #9 11-26-2009, 01:45 PM

I realize that classic eq is supposed to be hard, and that warriors aren't ever supposed to be able to solo efficiently, but concessions need to be made so this server is not just populated by mages and necros and so that new players will continue to log on even if they pick a class that cannot solo.

It's probably worse in the fact that I'm on Faydwer, I was literally the only person in Crushbone yesterday :/

Halladar · #10 11-26-2009, 02:55 PM

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No matter how much you say "man up, make your own groups, try and experience the content solo", it still bowls down to not having enough players near you to form a group, and it being too hard to solo as a warrior. Bind wound can only get you so far.

Also I don't like the way you guys are describing this trickle down effect for the economy, not only is the gear not that great and probably way too expensive for the warrior to even consider... but youre assuming hes just gonna wait for everyone else in the game to become uber just so he can get their throw away gear?

I dont think that we should put extra hp regen in the game while youre out of combat or anything, but I dont see whats wrong with at least letting bind wound goto 100% health or something.

Way back when I read a guide a warrior (think it was a troll named Fitty) put on castersrealm or stratics.

He had some good advice, things like a "sit pull" (may not work here, but when it started to run, sit down immediately and it shouldn't go far, and will come back shortly, works pretty well outdoors), use weighted axe when pulling as a warrior (you might get double attack, then turn off autoattack and equip another weapon running back to group, "your own little harm touch").

One thing he said though, was that an indispensable part of being a warrior was spending time in EC, trying to get your hands on equipment "no warrior of your level should have."

An approach a lot of people have used in the past on new servers is to play a druid or necro and get to 50. Then farm plat or items so you can play the class you really want to play.

If you are playing without twinking or help I'm pretty sure you can get either of those classes to 50 in the time it takes you to get a warrior to 30.

Then you give your warrior or rogue or whatever a wavecrasher and full crafted. Probably the FSS. After a couple expansions crafted would be considered trash equipment, but you get the idea.

I can tell you though, that if you play a warrior straight up from day one, it is going to be pretty hard to acquire the kind of gear people expect on a warrior. You'll be 49 and people will say "you only have that many hit points?" Or "why aren't you holding aggro" (cause you don't have 2 j-sticks or a SOD or whatever).

If you want to play a warrior (or paladin or sk, cause they technically can solo but really can't; they are just too slow and can't do the content alone the caster classes can) unless you start on server day 1, you are going to use hand me down equipment.

It is the nature of this game.