Rules regarding trains

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you need to "train" more than twice in a session, you need to move on. Either move on to a new area, a new group, a new class or maybe even a new game.

That's happened to me. After either soloing or grouping and aggroing Khrix Fritchoff or a werebat (when they were red cons) or something a couple times I'd call it a night.

[JayN]

I trained your mom last night!

everquest is a game youll have to get used to trains in. some intentional some not, be on your toes!

[skipdog]

Report the person that is training and move on with your life.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok every day now there seems to be an assling worth of trains, for the past week or so i been in MM. Every time i remind people that trains are against server rules and that they should just die instead of killing others, they seem to not realize this is a thing. Am i mistaken here? Are trains ok to do?

You seem to have confused trains with training. Trains, or the act of running to a zone line to lose agro, are not against the server rules and were not against the rules on live. Training, the act of dumping mobs in a non-zone line area in order to have them agro other players is against the rules.

Trains and Mistmoore are almost synonymous. It's not even worth complaining about if you have any clue were to park your group. If a player calls a train anyone exping at CE, GY, or Pond can easily avoid it. Is it a bit of an inconvenience? Yes, but that is an MMO, having to interact with other people in the world.

[happyhappy]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training
Training can be defined as the intentional manipulation of NPC Placement and Aggro in such a way that causes it to attack another player that it wouldn't have otherwise if at it's normal spawn location. The most basic form of this is "dumping" mobs near another player or party and escaping via a form of teleportation or death. Intentional or not, this is against the rules. This rule is not limited to the basic example given, as there are many different forms of training players will use. You take all responsibility for mobs that you aggro. If you are trying to escape from a pack of NPC's but there is another group in your way, do not run through them. Even if your intention is not to train them, it would inevitable cause this and you may be subject to disciplinary. It is recommended that you take the death (Your responsibility for aggroing the mobs) and request a resurrection from nearby players.

If you happen to accidentally train a group of players, please immedietely notify the staff via /petition that you have done so by accident. Apologize to the players in question, and assist them with any recovery needed. If the staff hears about your train before you tell them, intention is no longer an excuse. (Repeated unintentional trains will still result in disciplinary action).

[loramin]

happyhappy I think that just reiterates what we've all been saying: training (groups of people) is bad, training a zone is ok. That language just seems to be there to prevent "oh I didn't mean to train that group, it was an accident" behavior, not to mandate that no one is allowed to run to zone (honestly you shouldn't need to run through a group to get to the zone except in unusual cases).

[happyhappy]

Wasn't aware I was posting in a young lawyer thread, my bad.

Carry on

[Atmas]

I'm still just amazed that there is a thread complaining about trains in Mistmoore. I'm going to make a thread complaining about auction spam in EC.

[Estolcles]

The unwriten rule is to /shout "TRAIN TO ZONE" or something to that effect so as to warn others to move to safe areas.

They're just dicks if they're not even doing that.

[SCB]

I remember back on live I used to think trains were a design intent of the game - that every now and then a zone would just spawn a group of mobs that ran around murdering everyone and everything.

Then I hit dungeons higher than BB/CB/Unrest/MM and it was a whole new, glorious world. Until KC.