How to enable Luclin Graphics

[Reiker]

Devs break this plz.

[firesyde424]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Devs break this plz.

Why do you honestly care? You will never know which client I am using, and you will not have any clue that I am using the Luclin models. This does not involve any work from the Devs, it doesn't detract from any other projects they are working on, it's entirely client side, and doesn't intrude on you in any way, shape, or form.

So why do you care?

[Senadin]

Originally Posted by firesyde424 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you honestly care? You will never know which client I am using, and you will not have any clue that I am using the Luclin models. This does not involve any work from the Devs, it doesn't detract from any other projects they are working on, it's entirely client side, and doesn't intrude on you in any way, shape, or form.

So why do you care?

Because he wants to dictate HOW YOU should play! (even though it doesnt change jack about the game for others or doesnt require devs time and work)

Sorry you cant do that!

[kissemisse]

i want my char to look the same for everyone,
i hate luclin models,

[StinkyGreenBud]

Thanks but no thanks.

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by firesyde424 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you honestly care? You will never know which client I am using, and you will not have any clue that I am using the Luclin models. This does not involve any work from the Devs, it doesn't detract from any other projects they are working on, it's entirely client side, and doesn't intrude on you in any way, shape, or form.

So why do you care?

For the same reason that a lot of people like Nickleback but I'd take any opportunity I had to permanently remove them from the planet.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by firesyde424 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you honestly care? ...So why do you care?

Two reasons:

1. Back in the day, one of the features of EQ was that it was a persistent shared world. The world had its own integrity regardless of which, if any players were there. Mobs spawned, the day night cycle continued, etc etc. Any player that went to any particular area of the game world would see the same thing (including other players). When different players are using different character models, then that takes a little bit away from the shared experience. Suddenly, all the players in a given area aren't seeing the same thing anymore.

2. I take a sense of ownership in my avatar, as I believe most players do. I want everyone that I interact with to see my avatar looking the way I chose to make him look. For instance, maybe I choose the salt and pepper (well red pepper anyway) bearded barbarian and want to role play myself as the gritty veteran who's past his prime, but you have luclin models on and I look like a 28 yr old clean shaven musclehead with a pony-tail. Certainly not everyone, but a lot of us want this principle observed.

As I posted in the other thread, if luclin models ever appear on this server, I would love it if there was a way for all models to be enabled and displayed based on the choice of the player whose avatar is on screen, not the choice of the person running the client. However, that is more of a philosophical position as the coding obstacles are almost certainly too high to justify the effort.

[Dulu]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two reasons:

1. Back in the day, one of the features of EQ was that it was a persistent shared world. The world had its own integrity regardless of which, if any players were there. Mobs spawned, the day night cycle continued, etc etc. Any player that went to any particular area of the game world would see the same thing (including other players). When different players are using different character models, then that takes a little bit away from the shared experience. Suddenly, all the players in a given area aren't seeing the same thing anymore.

2. I take a sense of ownership in my avatar, as I believe most players do. I want everyone that I interact with to see my avatar looking the way I chose to make him look. For instance, maybe I choose the salt and pepper (well red pepper anyway) bearded barbarian and want to role play myself as the gritty veteran who's past his prime, but you have luclin models on and I look like a 28 yr old clean shaven musclehead with a pony-tail. Certainly not everyone, but a lot of us want this principle observed.

As I posted in the other thread, if luclin models ever appear on this server, I would love it if there was a way for all models to be enabled and displayed based on the choice of the player whose avatar is on screen, not the choice of the person running the client. However, that is more of a philosophical position as the coding obstacles are almost certainly too high to justify the effort.

Dumesh, how do you know people, even if using classic models, perceive them as you do?

How do you know the way you see the color red, is the way I see the color red?

You dont. Meditate on it.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Dulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dumesh, how do you know people, even if using classic models, perceive them as you do?

How do you know the way you see the color red, is the way I see the color red?

You dont. Meditate on it.

Because of the normalized distribution of genetic variation governing the growth of the collective playerbases' eyeballs and brains, I am confident that the population within several standard deviations is seeing substantially the same thing when the same thing is displayed on the screen. There are genetic outliers, but the portion of those whose vision is still good enough to play the game would be hard pressed to confuse a clean-shaven luclin barbarian with a pony tail with a original barbarian with the salt and pepper beard face, despite any lack of (or blurring of) coloring information.

Perhaps you should read some more biology between philosophy classes? or just stop being obtuse because our opinions differ?

[majohnson87]

the bugs that come with SoF seem endless, i won't bother checking it out. besides, classic models own!