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Old 07-15-2010, 07:30 AM
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So your saying for now just use Stinging Swarm, Creeping Crud and Flame Lick? And ignore Immolate / Root?
For pure efficiency, Flame Lick and your current highest Swarm dot is going to be the way to go. I'd never advocate blanket ignoring of spells. I do use root at times (custom picked to suit my needs, Grasping Cheapest, Ensnaring Balanced, Enveloping Fastest, Engulfing Longest) and I do use Immolate at times.

However, if you find yourself at low mana, or generally wanting to maximize your effectiveness for your play time, root is a waste when you can put forth the effort to take an active role in your mana regen. If the mob is resistant, use swarm line exclusively, they receive a -100 MR check.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:40 AM
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Make sure that when you're doing the Snare/Bail/Med/Rinserepeat dealy that you're not getting up from your med before you see your mana tick also.

Sounds pretty obvious, but you really could have just had poor timing and I'm sure it would have seemed like your mana pool was shallow if you weren't actually getting ticks of mana back the times you were sitting.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:02 AM
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No one's said this yet, so maybe i'm missing something - but have dot penalties when a mob is not rooted or feared been implemented? I.e. do dots do full damage to non-rooted, non-feared mobs?
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:26 PM
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you were able to kill allizewsaur at lvl 39??

It still takes me like 20 minutes to kill him at lvl 50....and i become mana problems too.What do i wrong? Tried using all my swarms or just the highest. i didnt use flame lick but i cant believe this makes much of a difference...
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:05 PM
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you were able to kill allizewsaur at lvl 39??

It still takes me like 20 minutes to kill him at lvl 50....and i become mana problems too.What do i wrong? Tried using all my swarms or just the highest. i didnt use flame lick but i cant believe this makes much of a difference...
When I used to try and take 'harder' targets as a Druid or Necro - I found it's best to just use your two most efficient dots.

Keep it snared - and sit as much as possible. It will take longer, but you should be able to find a 'balance' as mana use vs. time, etc.
The one way I could kill my ability to take out a harder target was to over-dot and then be OOM.

Focus on efficiency - let the dots run to the very last tick and reapply, if you can ASAP.

Keeping in mind to sit on the ticks and move in between.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:07 PM
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Thanks for all the tips guys! But I am wondering about how important the specialize tree's are? Im told I can only get one passed 50 so I should dump 51 points into one of them so I dont accidently raise one that I dont want.

But I am not sure which one is best to do, assuming I will be solo leveling and grouping about the same amount? Should I just choose the tree that has the most spells in it? Alteration maybe since its Root, Snare and Heals?
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:30 PM
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Once you hit 30 you can specialize in any of the casting schools. Whatever school you raise above 50 first will be your spec and will continue to go up till you hit the cap, whereas all others will max out at 50. As a benefit of specialization all spells associated with that school will have a chance to use less mana and fizzle less.

As a rule of thumb, most druids used to (and probably still are) specialize in Alteration since most our spells use it, especially those which use most mana eg. heals and ports but also others regularly used spells like snare and root. Thus, if you plan to duo/group a lot, Alteration would be a logical choice. On the other hand, if you plan to solo most of the time, stick with Conjuration since your most mana efficient damage spells, your magic based DoTs, are Conjuration-based.

Whatever school you decide to specialize in, to get it over 50, simply load up your lowest spell in this school and cast it over and over again until you hit 51.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:36 PM
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Thanks for all the tips guys! But I am wondering about how important the specialize tree's are? Im told I can only get one passed 50 so I should dump 51 points into one of them so I dont accidently raise one that I dont want.

But I am not sure which one is best to do, assuming I will be solo leveling and grouping about the same amount? Should I just choose the tree that has the most spells in it? Alteration maybe since its Root, Snare and Heals?
If you plan on quadding to 50 you want evocation.
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Old 07-15-2010, 04:03 PM
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It still takes me like 20 minutes to kill him at lvl 50
The fight had already gone on for an hour and a half by the time I took that screenshot :P

Landing snare took about 10 tries every 5 minutes or so. Drones got resisted about 1 in 4. It's a huge PITA to sit every 6 seconds for that long. It was all about playing the odds and managing mana so there was enough to reapply snare. I also kept spirit of cheetah up to attempt to reapply it without needing to make a full lap around the isle to get enough distance.
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:35 PM
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Allize doesnt resist very often, at least for druid swarms and snares. Not surprising that he could do it, but not surprising that it was a PITA either = P

Its not even efficient to kill alliz at 50 much less 39 lol

Edit: oops necroed = P
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