Discussion on R99 vs VZTZ **POSTPONED**

[lite]

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

variance

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[Mittens Romney]

I think it is to late in this servers history to make any changes that would encourage a large population increase.
One thing that would promote the health of the server is making a cap to the number of players allowed in one guild.
A wipe is the only real answer to get a large number of new players to try red99.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Mittens Romney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is to late in this servers history to make any changes that would encourage a large population increase.
One thing that would promote the health of the server is making a cap to the number of players allowed in one guild.
A wipe is the only real answer to get a large number of new players to try red99.

[Cid]

I can't join your stream but I have been on Red since Beta. I didn't play everyday but when the population was at 14 average unless Nihilum was raiding, I was often one of the 14.
Without the benefit of a guild, I managed to solo a shaman to 60, a druid to 60, a mage to 55, and a necro to 55. I did have the benefit of a long-time friend playing and a RL friend as well, and I did duo with my RL friend on the shaman. I can count the groups I have been in on one hand, but that's because I don't care about pvp nor actively participate in it.
I have never killed anyone on Red on any character. I don't attack anyone unless defending myself or a group member. I just run around helping people, especially new players, so hopefully they keep playing on Red despite the assholes.

That being said. I never played VZTZ. I only came to Red because my friends did and I like open camps. However, I have a much different perspective on the Red server than likely anyone else. I have never been anyone's enemy and it's allowed me to make friends with people in every guild. I am not on anyone's "side" except maybe the newbies' side.

It's not a bad server overall. The bitching gets old in ooc and the fixes are really slow. I don't care about resists, I'd rather all nukes land than no nukes land. It's rough on the melee characters but root is pretty resistable compared to nukes/dots. When a rogue catches you by surprise you won't be feeling sympathy for melee toons.

I know what the coders do is extremely time consuming and mind numbing to fix all the things that break in EQ and I don't really expect it to be done faster. I am happy it's done at all for the incredibly low price of free. I'd just like some more frequent updates on what is being worked on and perhaps a rough estimate on when it will be implemented. I think that would help with a lot of frustrations over the breaks and bugs.

The bitching, well, I like global chat, I just get tired of listening to the same 10 people reiterating the same ridiculous tirades. There have been hours of homosexual insults coupled with threats of how badly they can beat up each other in real life, then about how money they make or how often they get laid.
It's like watching the Discovery Channel and seeing two rams fighting over a fat guy in a female goat costume.
Or, if you prefer, a daycare for hyperactive little people with a Napolean complex arguing over who is the tallest. Doesn't matter, still a midget.

I'm not sure how to trim the weeds out of ooc without screwing everyone, perhaps someone has a good idea.

Overall, fun server. Plenty of people for me to help. Even if the whining and bitching in ooc never stops, well, the Ocean of Tears had to get filled up somehow.

Cidisius, 60 shaman
Neefin, 60 druid
Colt, 55 mage
Yawgmoth, 55 necro (Not always me!)

[Runya]

A wipe will chase away more people that it will bring it

[s1ckness]

Originally Posted by Runya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A wipe will chase away more people that it will bring it

would chase like 50 nihilum away and 20 ish non nilly..

would bring 200plus back id think

[mtb tripper]

Originally Posted by s1ckness [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would chase like 50 nihilum away and 20 ish non nilly..

would bring 200plus back id think

what this guy said ^

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Runya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A wipe will chase away more people that it will bring it

nah will enrich the pop without a hacker guild dominating the pop, but nihi and nihi wanna be's like yourself cant handle that.

[Stasis01]

Another HUGE bonus would be to just allow boxing - everyone's doing it anyway to PL up their fucking toon, instead of just openly doing it with boxed clerics/enchanters/porters since they're rare as fuck if you're not in Nihilum.

Make some rule boxing allowed up till a certain population would be a major bonus.

[heartbrand]

I'm a big proponent of boxing and I think it could easily destroy Zerg guilds. Right now people know if you're not in nihilum there's no way you can truly contest and kill content, even if its not even being contested at times. With boxing I can load in the clerics, the box shaman and chanter etc and I don't need 30 neckbeards to raid. If I don't need 30 neckbeards to raid why would I ever be guilded with 100 people? Answer is I probably wouldn't be. There would be a shit load more competition at the end game, a lot more groups, etc. Boxing could save this server.

Variance I just can't disagree more for all the reasons I mentioned prior, BUT if boxing were to be enabled I think then variance might be viable.