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Old 07-16-2010, 06:53 PM
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the sun is heating up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] other planets are getting warmer as well. Corn on the cob, baby! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Not sure where you heard that. Since solar irradiance has been in decline since 1990 and won't reach minimum until around 2038. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:21 PM
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Not sure where you heard that. Since solar irradiance has been in decline since 1990 and won't reach minimum until around 2038. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
Ummm NASA? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/
http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html
And reason we need global warming:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_g...ct_crop_yields

Meh to crops though, just means better beach weather [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 07-19-2010, 10:17 AM
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Somehow, I don't think the two known denialist sites you linked are accurately portraying the opinion of NASA climate science. You might want to try http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

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It's reasonable to assume that changes in the sun's energy output would cause the climate to change, since the sun is the fundamental source of energy that drives our climate system.

Indeed, studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes. For example, a decrease in solar activity is thought to have triggered the Little Ice Age between approximately 1650 and 1850, when Greenland was largely cut off by ice from 1410 to the 1720s and glaciers advanced in the Alps.

But several lines of evidence show that current global warming cannot be explained by changes in energy from the sun:

Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the Sun either remained constant or increased slightly.
If the warming were caused by a more active sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gasses are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere.
Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:02 PM
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Somehow, I don't think the two known denialist sites you linked are accurately portraying the opinion of NASA climate science. You might want to try http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
Actually, considering recent claims from NASA administration - it seems science is last on the agenda.

http://www.space.com/news/nasa-chief...ft-100707.html

Plus, if there is *anywhere* an agenda or money making scam will take place now - chances are, it's rooted in 'government' somehow.

Government - to me is just about the LEAST trustworthy source of information anymore. So - yeah, I'd be inclined to believe some third-party site first.

Still - that being said, I think we are impacting the environment. but I don't think it will doom us all and I don't think any amount of green taxes will fix it.

EACH AND EVERY Person needs to be conscious and do their own part. Government will fix this problem - just like they fix other problems. They'll demand lots of money, create more red-tape and need more money.

Think this sums up 'government' fixing anything: "Bureaucracy expands to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:43 PM
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Ummm NASA? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/
http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html
And reason we need global warming:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_g...ct_crop_yields

Meh to crops though, just means better beach weather [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Twistin' 'round the fire
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Bakin' in the sun

Put on your noseguard
Put on the lifeguard
Pass the tanning butter

Here comes a stingray
There goes a manta-ray
In walked a jelly fish
There goes a dogfish
Chased by a catfish
In flew a sea robin
Watch out for that piranha
There goes a narwhale
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:24 AM
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All I have to say is watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOOc5yiIWkg

Man George Carlin is spot on. I take his prospective, the Earth is fine, it will outlive us all. If we fuck it up enough it will take care of itself and get rid of us.

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If we fuck it up enough it will take care of itself and get rid of us.
Seems like that is what some of these global warming pimps are trying to do anyway; I mean kill us all off. Some just savor the idea of the human race becoming extinct and then reincarnating into trees and woodland animals. I've read this stuff, it's hilarious... well if it weren't so sick. Most are rebels w/o a clue, though. "Science", the new religion :/ and the worship of teh cockroach.
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Sooo Taxi, it snowed here in Texas more this year than I have ever seen. That must mean we are causing global cooling. Right?

Yes, your reasonings sounded just as stupid as mine.

I'm so sick of hearing this crap, its hotter this year than last year. People who say shit like that and actually believe those are signs of global warming need to make sure they don't have any kids. We have enough dumbasses around.
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:46 PM
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Sooo Taxi, it snowed here in Texas more this year than I have ever seen. That must mean we are causing global cooling. Right?

Yes, your reasonings sounded just as stupid as mine.

I'm so sick of hearing this crap, its hotter this year than last year. People who say shit like that and actually believe those are signs of global warming need to make sure they don't have any kids. We have enough dumbasses around.
Lol the weather was so hot up here that when rain finally broke out 4 days later it looked like i was at the high seas lookin out the window outside. Ive never seen anything like it in my whole life, we dont have hurricanes here.

Right back at ya, someone said that it is only in the united states where people take Rush Limbaugh more seriously than 99% of climate scientists out there (1% being oil industry shills). Only stupid people dont care about being guinea pigs in a global climate experiment when we know CO2 is a warming gas. I hope when youre 85 and realize how wrong you were youll be apologizing to your grandchildren for fighting against them having a viable future, since youre so smart and all that and will have kids.

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http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/c...nus_heat.shtml
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