Proof Global Warming Exists!!!!

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by chaple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, so here I am reading the news and I come across this link!

Would be nice if it were true, then plants, trees and crops would grow better [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
...you know "greenhouse". But there is hope, the sun is heating up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] other planets are getting warmer as well. Corn on the cob, baby! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[BeelzeBob]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the sun is heating up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] other planets are getting warmer as well. Corn on the cob, baby! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure where you heard that. Since solar irradiance has been in decline since 1990 and won't reach minimum until around 2038. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by BeelzeBob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure where you heard that. Since solar irradiance has been in decline since 1990 and won't reach minimum until around 2038. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation

Ummm NASA? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/
http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html
And reason we need global warming:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_g...ct_crop_yields

Meh to crops though, just means better beach weather [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boy's in bikinis
Girls in surfboards
Everybody's rockin'
Everybody's fruggin'

Twistin' 'round the fire
Havin' fun
Bakin' potatoes
Bakin' in the sun

Put on your noseguard
Put on the lifeguard
Pass the tanning butter

Here comes a stingray
There goes a manta-ray
In walked a jelly fish
There goes a dogfish
Chased by a catfish
In flew a sea robin
Watch out for that piranha
There goes a narwhale
HERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nigel Lawson, Piers Corbyn, Paul Reiter btw...

Hahahaha, well played sir.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Overcast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's how I look at it..

I think the 'truth' is that we do impact the environment - but not NEARLY to the degree that some would have us think.

I guess... I gotta look at it statistically.
The world has been here - some say for 4.5 Billion years.

We have been collecting climate data - that as least has some potential of 'accuracy' for maybe... 250 years? That's REALLY going out on a limb, considering people were still mostly farmers 250 years ago. But let's say 250 for the sake of this.

So we have about 0.000005555555555555556% of available data to base these 'assumptions' on.

I know there are computer models, tree rings, dirt layers, etc, etc - but we don't know all the variables that could have impacted that either. Or how does wood and soil potentially change after being in the middle of a tree or 50 foot under for 5,000 years.

Lot of unknowns.

Still - I think the truth, like most things, lies in the middle.

What they do is dig in the old ice with trapped bubbles of air in it so they can compare CO2 PPM from 100k years ago.

Its really simple, theres a short term economic interest in makin people beleive that the greenhouse effect is a myth and some people eat it up. If you want to convince yourself that havin too much CO2 in the atmosphere is a serious threat you can take a look at venus, its a oven from hell.

It doesnt take a scientist to notice global warming even now, this summer this east coast heat wave was the worst heat i ever felt, native people are having to move because the permafrost theyve been living on for thousands of years is melting, no snow at christmas often when it was snowing in november as a child, the signs are there even when you dont look at hard data.

Bottom line is we should be careful about running experiments when we are all sitting in the experiment bottle. If theres a chance that greenhouse effect can raise 4 degrees celcius come 2100 we would be stupid not to try to deflect it and switch to clean energy.

[Zereh]

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[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its really simple, theres a short term economic interest in makin people beleive that the greenhouse effect is a myth...

Actually there's an economic interest in making everyone believe there is man-made global warming.

Your Venus comparison is apples and oranges btw. There are a hell of a lot of other reasons Venus is an oven. The most important being that it's sitting right next to the sun. C'mon now.

Local variations in temperature stability have a heck of a lot more reasons than C02. What about the Medieval Climatic Anomaly, or the Little Ice-Age? Regional variations have nothing to do with global climate.

One very good Canadian documentary is here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0462407994295#

Well worth a watch.

One very interesting point is that - while yes - we are experiencing a global warming, it's a global warming since the late 19th century, and meteorological data began just at the end of the last cyclic cooling period.

Another is that while surface temperatures seem to be rising...there has been no change in atmospheric temperature in the last 25 years. The exact period that the IPCC modified its position on in 2001 - the position that global warming is attributable to man-made gases that is.

There have been warmer global periods than ours also. This is statistical fact. These warmer periods over the last 10,000 years have had not a doggoned thing to do with man-made C02.

And what about the falling sea level in the Maldives?

[eqholmes]

All I have to say is watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOOc5yiIWkg

Man George Carlin is spot on. I take his prospective, the Earth is fine, it will outlive us all. If we fuck it up enough it will take care of itself and get rid of us.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 49 Ranger DA

[girth]

Sooo Taxi, it snowed here in Texas more this year than I have ever seen. That must mean we are causing global cooling. Right?

Yes, your reasonings sounded just as stupid as mine.

I'm so sick of hearing this crap, its hotter this year than last year. People who say shit like that and actually believe those are signs of global warming need to make sure they don't have any kids. We have enough dumbasses around.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we fuck it up enough it will take care of itself and get rid of us.

Seems like that is what some of these global warming pimps are trying to do anyway; I mean kill us all off. Some just savor the idea of the human race becoming extinct and then reincarnating into trees and woodland animals. I've read this stuff, it's hilarious... well if it weren't so sick. Most are rebels w/o a clue, though. "Science", the new religion :/ and the worship of teh cockroach.