R.I.P MMORPGs... 1999-2004

[2flare]

It has nothing in common "to WoW" ????



1. Orcs look like WoW orcs

2. Humans look like WoW humans


3. Graphics are cartoonish like WoW


4. Probably solo to max lvl without talking to a single player


5. No need to think while playing, just mash buttons faster (WoW)


6. No time to communicate, ur moving around so much while fighting





Yeah, there's NOTHING like WoW.
A bunch of anti-social players, it's all going to be a coincidence! Absolutely nothing inspired by WoW's culture of "quick, fast, Everyone is a HERO"




I dare you to prove to me that EQnext would be the SAME GAME if WoW had never launched??? ( oops, that would require thinking)

[Loto]

Originally Posted by 2flare [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has nothing in common "to WoW" ????

I dare you to prove to me that EQnext would be the SAME GAME if WoW had never launched??? ( oops, that would require thinking)

What a broad statement. The MMO genre would not be the same without WoW, as much as it is a convenient game to bring non-hardcore gamers into the MMO world.

Would there have even been an EQNext if WoW hadn't launched? Who knows? How in gods name would i prove to you something that was permanently affected back in 2004? You are silly. Take some more lithium before you blow a fuse.

Might as well give it a try. If I tried Rift for 10 mins, then I'm willing to try what might turn out to be a decent EQ game.

[spatrix87]

Simply put, no game is ever going to have that captivating feel like Everquest 1 did. Everyone says UO was first, which I don't deny, but Everquest 1 was by far the best MMORPG for it's time.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by spatrix87 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply put, no game is ever going to have that captivating feel like Everquest 1 did. Everyone says UO was first, which I don't deny, but Everquest 1 was by far the best MMORPG for it's time.

No game is going to have that feeling for YOU. There will be a whole new generation of gamers whose minds are blown by EQNext. You only lose your MMO virginity once.

[Infuriati]

Originally Posted by 2flare [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has nothing in common "to WoW" ????



1. Orcs look like WoW orcs

2. Humans look like WoW humans


3. Graphics are cartoonish like WoW


4. Probably solo to max lvl without talking to a single player


5. No need to think while playing, just mash buttons faster (WoW)


6. No time to communicate, ur moving around so much while fighting





Yeah, there's NOTHING like WoW.
A bunch of anti-social players, it's all going to be a coincidence! Absolutely nothing inspired by WoW's culture of "quick, fast, Everyone is a HERO"




I dare you to prove to me that EQnext would be the SAME GAME if WoW had never launched??? ( oops, that would require thinking)

When have graphics ever mattered? you play EQ1 which looks like complete shit imo

[Rajahten]

Originally Posted by 2flare [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has nothing in common "to WoW" ????



1. Orcs look like WoW orcs

2. Humans look like WoW humans


3. Graphics are cartoonish like WoW


4. Probably solo to max lvl without talking to a single player


5. No need to think while playing, just mash buttons faster (WoW)


6. No time to communicate, ur moving around so much while fighting





Yeah, there's NOTHING like WoW.
A bunch of anti-social players, it's all going to be a coincidence! Absolutely nothing inspired by WoW's culture of "quick, fast, Everyone is a HERO"




I dare you to prove to me that EQnext would be the SAME GAME if WoW had never launched??? ( oops, that would require thinking)

1. WoW orcs and EQNext orcs and all orcs look the same. Just because they're green and are ugly, with huge teeth does not mean that it came from WoW.

WoW orc - http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../1e/3D-Orc.png

EQ Next orc - http://www.eqnforum.com/attachments/...rtorc-jpg.169/

Well damn, lets just bring up the mother of all RPGs and compare it to that too. D&D Orc. - http://polaqu.wikia.com/wiki/Orc?file=Orc.jpg

None of them look the same, but all of them have similarities.

2. Humans in ALL games look the same. We are, after all, a race with slight differences.

3. Games with cartoonish graphics - There are SO many of them. WoW didn't patent cartoon graphics, and SoE definitely doesn't think they've stolen anything or are being "WoWish". In my opinion, cell shaders and cartoon graphics are the *best* way for things to become more realistic. I think the best game in this subgenre, Zelda - Windwaker, would agree.

I do recall during Blizzcon 2008 or 2009, that Blizzard did a huge thank you to EverQuest and SoE for being the FOUNDING FATHER of all MMOs. They thanked them for all of their ideas and wouldn't be around if not for EQ.

4. You're speculating here with very little to back you up other than a stubborn guess. I seriously doubt this. EQ1 is not like that, EQ2 is not like that, why would the next one be, just because WoW is? Doesn't make sense.

5. No need to think while playing. I am going to go out on a limb here and say something. In a group of 6 people in Sebilis, you are one of several classes that literally sits in the camp spot and waits for the mob to be pulled unless you're the puller. Otherwise, you stand up, hit a button, hit another button.. move a little, hit another button once that spell is done, or when backstab comes up from CD, or when you need to change songs. The one thing that WoW has that is more fun than EQ, is its combat system. Either way, EQ1 or WoW, or any other freakin' MMO - you are mashing buttons, albeit slower than other MMOs, but you are still mashing your hotkey for backstab as a rogue, still mashing bash/yaulp/stun as a paladin, etc etc. Am I wrong?

6. I've been in a ton of groups in EQ1 where people are chain pulling, the healer (myself) is on their toes trying to heal, melee is doing their thing and enchanters are pressed for skill. No one can type, no time to type (even though, we could) and thats the MOST fun in this game is when shit gets real. That is what Ventrillo is for, TeamSpeak, etc. If you're more of a casual player, than your playstyle won't be so time consuming and there will be plenty of time to chat between kills.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...69945506_n.jpg

Take a look at that. That's the credits from the EverQuest Trilogy booklet. This was before WoW even came out.

So, by saying SoE was inspired by WoW.. you might want to take a step back and see who took ideas from who.

I honestly think you're accusing SoE of being unoriginal, of stealing WoW concepts when really, every MMO has a base culture as mentioned during the EQN unveil. They are being innovative, and borrowing from many years of ideas which mostly stemmed from EQ. Other companies took these concepts, built upon them, and recycled them into the MMO world for others to use. But it all, in the end, comes back to EQ - the grandfather of it all.

You seem like you've made up your mind and won't enjoy EQNext. Others will. But keep in mind, SoE did not borrow anything from WoW. WoW just took from the cesspool of MMO concepts, just like everyone else is doing.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by raff01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thought EQNEXT has nothing in common to WoW about it. My only concern is regarding instancing which I haven't heard about still.
Truth is what you were expecting was Everquest classic with improved graphics.

Seriously? Those graphics look like they were pulled straight from WoW, I atleast want my MMORPG to look/feel like its a possible alternate world. Why would I want to play with tony the tiger and kung fu panda? lol, im not 8 fucking years old and this shit isn't the golden compass. This was supposed to be EVERQUESTNEXT, not SOMEKNOCKOFFNAMEDEQNEXTINORDERTOMILKPEOPLELIKEYOUF ORMONEYS.


Please tell me in what way this game is related to EQ at all, besides the word being in it's title? Fuck they callin it EQnext for if its nothing like the original?

[LordSterben]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would I want to play with tony the tiger and kung fu panda? lol, im not 8 fucking years old and this shit isn't the golden compass.

Lol. I agree. We have the ability to make realistic models with darker, grittier color palettes. Why don't they?

Edit: corporations don't make arbitrary decisions about things like this. Somewhere along the line it has been tested and proven that more people will want a cartoonish theme. My guess is that parents will be more apt to let their kids play the game if it looks like Nickelodeon made it.

In conclusion, kids ruin everything.

[raff01]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously? Those graphics look like they were pulled straight from WoW, I atleast want my MMORPG to look/feel like its a possible alternate world. Why would I want to play with tony the tiger and kung fu panda? lol, im not 8 fucking years old and this shit isn't the golden compass. This was supposed to be EVERQUESTNEXT, not SOMEKNOCKOFFNAMEDEQNEXTINORDERTOMILKPEOPLELIKEYOUF ORMONEYS.


Please tell me in what way this game is related to EQ at all, besides the word being in it's title? Fuck they callin it EQnext for if its nothing like the original?

Apparently all the lore, but I guess it just doesn't interest you and you're obsessed with the image of the lion Kerran reminding you of WoW...

[twgmot]

There are no levels in EQ Next by the way.