When will something be done about intentional trains?

[chtulu]

Alright, I accept your answer. It's a sad, and tragic truth I guess.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

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[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

How do you fake a /report? Doesnt that go to the GMs logs of exactly what people said. I can see faking /log on, but not /report. Not callnig you a liar, just trying to understand how /report actually works.

[chtulu]

very carefully.

[Teeroyoyort]

Phallax, let's not open that can-of-shit lol.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Teeroyoyort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phallax, let's not open that can-of-shit lol.

Its an honest question, as far as I know /report is suppose to report the last 20 lines to GM logs. Somthing we have no power of altering.

[fastboy21]

i actually don't see the problem with banning someone if they give their account info to a guildmate and the guildmate does something worthy of a ban. you shouldn't share your account info with someone who might do this (maybe this means you don't share your account info at all).

anyways, i don't think its a huge problem the way some on the forums make it out to be. From what you read you'd think there are just giant random trains running amok every two minutes in every zone....which is hardly the case.

i do think this server has the potential to get into some of that out of control griefing given the ultra-low maturity level of some vocal members of the community, but it isn't there yet.

[Rogean]

/report takes the last 20 lines on your window and sends it to the server.

If you run a third party program to force your window to display new lines of text that wouldn't otherwise be there, they get sent to the server too.

On live these reports are then saved and the GM's trust them unquestionably. I've seen people suspended/banned for something that was reported they never said.

[Tronjer]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like to bet 10 dollars that the people with the mind set of harassing people in such a primitive manner don't have the knowledge to go to lengths securing their anonymity anyways.

As far as I know ISP work with dynamic ip's. You can track down where somebody is coming from, but his ip changes every time he connects with the internet.

It's a pity that P99 is not allowed to charge a fee for activating and subscription. People would think twice before they get their payed accounts banned.

[mitic]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which also brings up something else, oh boy fun! Guilds share account information all over. How would you feel for being banned because a friend of yours had logged into your account only once before... and then trained someone with a new account they made on the same IP?.

the moment you share an account u SHOULD be aware that things like this can happen. its on the responsibility of the accounts owner and so he, sadly for him, has to be at least suspended if not permabanned

you dont make exceptions on boxing so why are you doing em on this, for the servers sake, more serious issues?