Low and Mid Level Warrior agro

[Mazeri]

Thanks for the replies everyone!

It looks like my best options currently would be Staff of Battle, SSoY x2, Green Jade Broadsword (or Kynzar) + SSoY or Jade Mace + Fist of Zek

I do have a bit of money so all of these are options. What would give me the best bang for my buck from 1-50?

As a side note, my wife will be playing a cleric up with me.. so it would be nice to have decent dps when we are duo'ing between groups (if that has any baring on weapon choice).

[kaev]

Staff of Battle is easily the best affordable DPS L20 to L49, and maybe longer.

Nathsar Greatsword is a cheap 2hs with shortish delay and not terrible DPS that makes it a nice budget weapon for your 2hs skill-ups (is good DPS sub-20 due to damage cap limiting other weapons more)

Use Sword of Skyfire or Green Jade Broadsword for budget 1hs skill-up weapon (discard Sword of Skyfire at L45 at latest as you do not want it to proc).

In the p99 uber-twink environment the SSoY is junk until it procs at L37, and then it's meh.

Kunzar Ku'juch is ok ratio, decent agro weapon when it procs at 40, and is cheap (don't pay more than 50pp for it) (Sword of Skyfire and GJBS are both better until 40)

Jade Mace is just a nice weapon in either hand. Good damage for a 1hander, good agro for a non-proc'ing weapon, short delay gets skill-ups quickly.

Ykeshan War Club has better ratio than SSoY (still not great) and procs at 40, but even at L40+ unless you have a v high (buffed) dex you'll get more agro with Jace Mace in a lot of fights because you won't proc often enough to make up for the difference in the ratio.

Fist of Zek is nice off-hand ratio, but it's slow so not great for skill-ups and the -20agi might be an issue (don't let your agi drop below 75 if you are tanking.)


Based on my experience sub-20:
* best ratio dual wield, don't forget to skill all your weapons

Based on my experience sub-40:
* Staff of Battle unless having trouble with agro, in which case
* best ratio dual-wield and mash that stupid broken Taunt key, and
* if fighting low enough cons point out to casters how wonderful root can be for agro control (high blues and even/yellow cons break a lot of roots tho)

Based on my experience in lo 40s:
* with no dex buff I go usually with my best ratio 1handers : Jade Mace(9/18) + Blood Point(10/21), too many fights end without a proc with unbuffed dex
* with dex buff I start with Kunzar Ku'juch + Ykeshan War Club, after proc swap to best ratio, some fights still end without a proc v0v
* if casters are rooting mobs I go with best ratio dual wield, or with Staff of Battle for best damage if the roots are holding well
* if somebody else is tanking I go Staff of Battle

[Vega]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and mash that stupid broken Taunt key

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[kaev]

To be fair, just plain mashing Taunt every time it refreshes is fail. But you don't actually have to be very clever about it. Taunt when you lose agro. Taunt when mob is rooted (because you can't tell who really has agro). Taunt before breaking mez. Simple enough that even an Ogre can master it..

[Vega]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair, just plain mashing Taunt every time it refreshes is fail. But you don't actually have to be very clever about it. Taunt when you lose agro. Taunt when mob is rooted (because you can't tell who really has agro). Taunt before breaking mez. Simple enough that even an Ogre can master it..

Ok, confidence restored.

[Mazeri]

Thanks again for the help guys.

I ended up with Jarsath Trident and Green Jade Broadsword for my normal DW combo (plus I got a Kunzar Ku'juch to play with in the 40s), and the Staff of Battles for DW/DPS after 20.

I am sure I will want to look at weps like the jade mace/blood point in the later levels, and hope to have a bit more cash on hand at that point.

So far so good! Even with other twinks I don't have a problem holding agro. Cant wait for 13!

[Strifen]

Originally Posted by Mazeri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks again for the help guys.

I ended up with Jarsath Trident and Green Jade Broadsword for my normal DW combo (plus I got a Kunzar Ku'juch to play with in the 40s), and the Staff of Battles for DW/DPS after 20.

I am sure I will want to look at weps like the jade mace/blood point in the later levels, and hope to have a bit more cash on hand at that point.

So far so good! Even with other twinks I don't have a problem holding agro. Cant wait for 13!

Just remember to time your taunts to put you at the top of the aggro list. For example wait until a high aggro spell lands on your target then taunt it off and that aggro will transfer to you as you'll get bumped to the top of the list.

Shaman slows mob, right at inc, does 1k aggro (just an example), once you successfully taunt that aggro is now counted towards you.

[Strifen]

Originally Posted by Mazeri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks again for the help guys.

I ended up with Jarsath Trident and Green Jade Broadsword for my normal DW combo (plus I got a Kunzar Ku'juch to play with in the 40s), and the Staff of Battles for DW/DPS after 20.

I am sure I will want to look at weps like the jade mace/blood point in the later levels, and hope to have a bit more cash on hand at that point.

So far so good! Even with other twinks I don't have a problem holding agro. Cant wait for 13!

Sounds good! Also remember to time your taunts to put you at the top of the aggro list. For example wait until a high aggro spell lands on your target then taunt it off and that aggro will transfer to you as you'll get bumped to the top of the list.

Shaman slows mob, right at inc, does 1k aggro (just an example), once you successfully taunt that aggro is now counted towards you.

[mtb tripper]

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