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Old 07-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Nirgon Nirgon is offline
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I've also noticed the hail issue.

You could spam hail Hasten Bootstrutter and he wouldn't even budge on live.

Here, he breaks away. NPCs should reset their "resume path after x seconds" method each time they are hailed.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:53 AM
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I haven't gotten jboots in a while, but I remember being able to Hail hasten to run through the quest. He would run away quickly, but he would still stop. Similarly I know that Rebo (rivervale) will stop when you hail him, though he only stays put for a second or two. When turning in jumjum I usually hail between adding 1 more jumjum to the trade, just to be safe he doesn't run off on me. Gorg on the other hand does not stop, not even for a second.

Right now there are 3 (maybe 4?) mobs that can knock you off of sky. Gwan, the Named Eyeball on Gorg island (aoe grav flux, byebye 3/4 of your raid), at least one of the Spirocs (never bothered to figure out which one), and possibly the casters on island 7. I can't say I've seen the drakes on 7 use knockback, but I've only cleared them a handful of times and they are mostly wizards, so I wouldn't be shocked. Half the issue with spirocs casting knockback is probably due to all mobs on p99 casting spells way higher level than they should be. Spirocs in sky cast Breath of Ro (lvl 52 spell) and there are certain mobs around casting velious+ spells (unless this part was fixed).

Looking at the guides I posted, the March 2001 guide says that going to island 2 (azerack island) "What makes this island difficult is that it’s aggro. When you first enter it, you will almost certainly be attacked. You can, however, reduce the risk of this happening. Shrink and invis everybody before going up. This will lower your aggro considerably." I interpret this as meaning that usually someone will port up and move the wrong way, or be level 46 and have a large agro range and agro something, and then bam, wiped raid. On p99 however, at least high levels I know don't get agro from the port up spot (but I'm not sure about lvl 46 toons). Now since island 5 on p99 has no where to hide, you would think this guide would be even more cautious about the port to island 5... "Be careful when you enter spiroc island. You’re not going to get jumped when you zone in but nobody should move when they get in until everybody has zoned in, looked around, and gotten their bearings. If you move too far, you’ll aggro a wandering spiroc." Seems to support the theory of low agro, high assist on spirocs.

From Nov, 2001 "A very odd behavior here is that the spirocs seem to have VERY low agro ranger here (almost to the point of not being agro), but VERY LARGE call for help (assist) ranger."

These guides also mention spirocs casting "Cast lightning, unresistable AoE; Cast Blind and Root". I can't say I've ever been rooted by spirocs (and i've pulled them a lot on p99) and they most certainly have never AoE'd. They do however like to cast lvl 52 druid Breath of Ro, and at least one does like to cast a knockback spell once in a while on p99.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:53 PM
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Not all mobs should stop when hailed

None should be casting a spell higher than lvl 49 iirc

Sky island 2 Azeracks should definitely be all up on you when you pop in.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:22 PM
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From Drexxel's 2006 guide about island 2
"DANGER! Nine aggressive mobs are on the island, but no longer aggro the point where you arrive [Confirmed 5/28/2006]. They don't see through invisibility though, so rushing through this island if you're already keyed will be easy. The Boss mob is not up though, so if you're farming keys, you'll need to spawn him by (*strike-through*killing his placeholder*strike-through*). clearing the islands.[Confirmed 5/28/2006] "

So changes that I think we can confirm from this thread:
-Drastically decrease spirocs agro range, but keep the current assist range.
-Increase Azeracks agro range slightly to cover the whole island.
-Possibly make the azerack ph static, but this might need more research
-Fix spell casting from npcs (universal bug) but specifically for spirocs
-Make Gorg stop briefly when hailed


OT Hammers and island 4 pathing need more research, imo
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:29 PM
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Also, should the Sirran from bee boss respond to Hails, or should he only respond to key loot turn ins and 'citanuL eht narriS, liaH'?

Currently on p99 he responds to Hails.
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:12 PM
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:04 PM
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