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Old 06-07-2013, 10:26 PM
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LOL obviously you've never even BEEN to the hood, let alone been raised there.

EVERYBODY knows about the shit in that article down there. Also, people who are "in a temporary emergency" don't get Welfare, unless they're a black woman with 5 kids. Instead, they get something "UNEMPLOYMENT," with a maximum of 6 months, and requiring the recipient to actively seek employment opportunities the entire time.

For example, when I was working at Subway 5 years back and making roughly $12,000 a year (BARELY ENOUGH TO LIVE ON MIND YOU --- BARRREEELLLYY if even enough) and I was never even approved for the minimum $100/month in food stamps.

By comparison, I know an individual who hasn't worked a day in her life, has 5 kids, and receives ****$2600/month**** in total Welfare benefits. $900/month in food stamps alone, and $500/month IN CASH. CASH. They literally hand her an envelope with $500 cash in it every month.

NOT A PENNY OF THIS MONEY is accounted for one the Welfare recipient receives it.

Guess what she never DOESN'T have? Weed, alcohol, or Newports.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:35 PM
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LOL obviously you've never even BEEN to the hood, let alone been raised there.

EVERYBODY knows about the shit in that article down there. Also, people who are "in a temporary emergency" don't get Welfare, unless they're a black woman with 5 kids. Instead, they get something "UNEMPLOYMENT," with a maximum of 6 months, and requiring the recipient to actively seek employment opportunities the entire time.

For example, when I was working at Subway 5 years back and making roughly $12,000 a year (BARELY ENOUGH TO LIVE ON MIND YOU --- BARRREEELLLYY if even enough) and I was never even approved for the minimum $100/month in food stamps.

By comparison, I know an individual who hasn't worked a day in her life, has 5 kids, and receives ****$2600/month**** in total Welfare benefits. $900/month in food stamps alone, and $500/month IN CASH. CASH. They literally hand her an envelope with $500 cash in it every month.

NOT A PENNY OF THIS MONEY is accounted for one the Welfare recipient receives it.

Guess what she never DOESN'T have? Weed, alcohol, or Newports.
I live in the hood right now. At one point, I was a property manager for a public housing building. I volunteer as a tutor (mostly math and writing) teaching urban youth (mostly black, lots of latino). I interact with people living in poverty every single day.

$900 per month to feed six people works out to $30 per day, or $5 per person. They don't give her an envelope with cash, it goes onto her SNAP card and she can withdraw it like a debit card. The minimum benefit on food assistance is $16, not $100, but most food shelves don't have any requirements.

This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:07 AM
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I live in the hood right now. At one point, I was a property manager for a public housing building. I volunteer as a tutor (mostly math and writing) teaching urban youth (mostly black, lots of latino). I interact with people living in poverty every single day.

$900 per month to feed six people works out to $30 per day, or $5 per person. They don't give her an envelope with cash, it goes onto her SNAP card and she can withdraw it like a debit card. The minimum benefit on food assistance is $16, not $100, but most food shelves don't have any requirements.

This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups.
See, your argument was sound till "This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups". Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:17 AM
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Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....
That time you starved to death sounds like hell.


Seriously though, I like your plan. Hungry kids should be forced into menial labor like washing dishes because and that way they'll be motivated to eat. The fact their poor nutrition lends itself to the developmental stagnance most often seen in dishwashers is just a happy circumstance.
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:48 AM
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See, your argument was sound till "This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups". Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....
I think you're not clear on how development works. If someone is stressed, especially in the womb or as an infant, they are fucked for life. Not only that, if it's a woman, their kids are fucked, too. What looks like lazy is frequently brain damage.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:19 PM
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Skip right to the news clips in these vids...........

COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR WELFARE PROPOSED IN MICHIGAN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opUKyWJ9sSw

in this video you can see Maureen Taylor of the Michigan Welfare Rights Organization call it "TORTUROUS" to ask Welfare Recipients to do any sort of community service in exchange for their funds. She suggests, instead, that Welfare recipients should have fully-paid FREE SCHOOLING in Nursing and trades such as plumbing, electrician etc etc etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5WXGNlXsQw

In THIS video you can see the same bitch arguing that it's ridiculous to require the children of Welfare recipients to attend school, in exchange for continued Welfare support. Children are still allowed to miss TEN DAYS A YEAR, UNEXCUSED, and any days missed with a doctor's note are not counted.

Of course she feels the same way about any drug testing of any kind for Welfare recipients.

LOL. Welfare RIGHTS? WELFARE IS A FUCKING PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT!!!!
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:28 PM
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That's over $30,000 per year. More than twice what a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker makes.

And what is a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker told to do when HE/SHE doesn't have enough money? Get a second job, and work an ADDITIONAL 40 hours a week.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:41 PM
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That's over $30,000 per year. More than twice what a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker makes.

And what is a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker told to do when HE/SHE doesn't have enough money? Get a second job, and work an ADDITIONAL 40 hours a week.
Full time is 2080 hours a year and the federal minimum wage is $7.25, which is $15,080 annually. That qualifies for assistance. Most Walmart workers qualify for benefits.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:44 PM
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Full time is 2080 hours a year and the federal minimum wage is $7.25, which is $15,080 annually. That qualifies for assistance. Most Walmart workers qualify for benefits.
1) That's before taxes.
2) Again, I've never qualified for a single dollar in benefits.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:43 PM
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No, dude.

She's handed and EVELOPE WITH CASH IN IT, EVERY SINGLE MONTH. She has a "payee" who cashes the check and delivers the cash.

I know PLENTY OF WORKING PEOPLE who go hungry. And die in sickness. Keep in mind the Welfare bottom-feeders have full government covered healthcare, whilst the minimum wage worker HAS ****NOTHING****

I've seen people live in pain for 20+ years. I've seen people DIE OF TUBERCULOSIS, HERE IN NY STATE, because they were refused medical assistance to diagnose the problem.

I would know -- I've worked many hospital jobs interacting with patients and I see it all the time. The children of working-class families without insurance being thrown out of the hospital, screaming and crying in pain, whilst the unemployed Welfare Rat with something like the flu is admitted overnight from the ER, at absolutely no cost.

I've seen Welfare rats go to the ER FOR PINK EYE. Would you EVER go to the fucking emergency room because you had pink eye?
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