My Plight...

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eq pvp sucks shit through a straw, always did. No class balancing makes it literally some of the shittiest pvp action, unless you're talking 2 ppl of the same class dueling eq pvp is shitttttttttttt.

EQ PVP is all about griefing, not balanced fights....who wants that?

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

corpse camped some level 10 rogue today in BB doing my part

I like how people from red try to recruit from blue periodically but then say stuff like this. Why would you think that a statement like this is going to recruit more people to play?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ PVP is all about griefing]

This is 100% true. The only PVP you'll have till 50 is no-talent scrubs who think that killing you with a RFS/Fungi/CoF monk twink makes them a badass. After 50 you have guild-v-guild pvp which is pretty fun actually (and certainly way better than variance/tracking/etc) but the immersion levels are very serious on red.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eq pvp sucks shit through a straw, always did. No class balancing makes it literally some of the shittiest pvp action, unless you're talking 2 ppl of the same class dueling eq pvp is shitttttttttttt.

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[liveitup1216]

Originally Posted by liveitup1216 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if they reboot the server with sullon zek rules, ill never log on blue again

[Yukahwa]

You guys are hilarious. Balanced PVP isn't fun. Balance PVP = street fighter Ryu vs Ryu fights. That isn't fun. Balanced PVP = Call of Duty. Not fun.

EQ PvP is about strategy, finding imbalances and exploiting them, knowing imbalances and avoiding them.

EQ either PVP or PVE is not a solo game. Many characters are terrible solo. Some are better than others, just like in PVE but the game is not designed around solo play. Solo play is boring. Balanced solo play is call of duty or street fighter. Not fun.

EQ PvP is 100% flawlessly balanced in a group. Its the best game and Item loot makes it better because the griefers at low levels that will be there regardless of item loot or not...they now have to risk their fungi when they want to be ridiculously overpowered doing unrest patrol. Item loot also makes it worthwhile to attain obscure no drop items for when you know you might get jumped. It balances the game because guys who have maximum platinubs from super pharming stuff like fungi have to be worried about their precious pixels if they want to be as strong as possible in a PVP engagement.

Non item loot PVP that way it is now offers no incentive to PVP, and basically makes level 1-59 just a bumrush to 60 because low level PVP engagements are fruitless entirely.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a noob weakling, would you possibly be more interested in dealing with this kind of action if there was item loot, which would mean if you could overcome your aggressor you could get an awesome item and sell it and buy some nice weapons or whatever?

No. I'm not interested in stealing his pixels.

Additionally, other strong guys might (are very likely to) want to kill him to take his good armors too?

Don't care about people stealing other people's pixels.

Do you think losing EXP upon your death, and gaining nothing upon your victory is a really really really stupid way to handle PVP system?

That's a redundant question.

Honestly curious what you think. I'm a proponent of rallos zek style item loot, because it made it worthwhile to fight level 1-50 which is where most people will burn out.

At present only reward is pride, and newbie level 8 getting gangbustered has no pride, and will just revert to blue.

What Classic EQ means to me:
Friend_001: "Why I don't see you on UO anymore?"
Me: "PVP Sucks! God, I hate it and everything about it!"
Friend_002: "Then you should come to EQ."
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[A1551]

Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are hilarious. Balanced PVP isn't fun. Balance PVP = street fighter Ryu vs Ryu fights. That isn't fun. Balanced PVP = Call of Duty. Not fun.

EQ PvP is about strategy, finding imbalances and exploiting them, knowing imbalances and avoiding them.

EQ either PVP or PVE is not a solo game. Many characters are terrible solo. Some are better than others, just like in PVE but the game is not designed around solo play. Solo play is boring. Balanced solo play is call of duty or street fighter. Not fun.

EQ PvP is 100% flawlessly balanced in a group. Its the best game and Item loot makes it better because the griefers at low levels that will be there regardless of item loot or not...they now have to risk their fungi when they want to be ridiculously overpowered doing unrest patrol. Item loot also makes it worthwhile to attain obscure no drop items for when you know you might get jumped. It balances the game because guys who have maximum platinubs from super pharming stuff like fungi have to be worried about their precious pixels if they want to be as strong as possible in a PVP engagement.

Non item loot PVP that way it is now offers no incentive to PVP, and basically makes level 1-59 just a bumrush to 60 because low level PVP engagements are fruitless entirely.

This. Eq pvp is awesome when youre talking about group pvp. Individual pvp totally lacks any form of balance but thats also true of the solo blue experience. EQ group pvp is amazing also because of the fight over limited resources, defending leveling areas, camps etc. I never had as much fun in any game, ever, as I had on rallos zek or sullon zek. I love blue now. I enjoy the hell out of it but honestly eq without pvp is less than half of a game vs what I remeber from live rallos zek. Its also a lot less stressful mind you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I think I get enough pvp at work that I can tolerate just enjoying the community on blue.

Sadly our pvp server here has too many massive issues to recreate any sort of sucessful experience. For one thing live pvp servers were predominantly populated by people who wanted to play eq pve with some pvp mixed in. The majority of players would play nice with other people they met on rallos, and on team servers you had automatic allies and enemies. Our crapfest of a red server is flush with griefers who thinks its fun to molest new players with their fungi cof jbooted rfs monks with good resist gear.

On rallos that twink monk griefer would be nothing but a fungi vending machine for other players thanks to item loot. instead the griefers would be naked wizards necros druids and the like. Theyd be anoying but very killable.

Theres a lot of other massive issues with our pvp server like exp loss on pvp deaths, a totally borked nonclassic resist system, and I think teams would have helped a lot. Probably too late for any changes no matter how sweeping to ever rescue the box in any meaningful way, or so I believe. Hope to be proven wrong. But the problem isnt eq pvp which is actually pretty fun!

[webrunner5]

I don't really think getting gang banged and called ***** 75 times a day is my idea of fun. Sorry. That is something you do when you are like 12 years old. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[kweinp99]

ill roll red if u give me RFS, Fungi, RBG