Is Faith In God Reasonable? Faith is Foolish Debate

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Created calculus on a dare in order to answer a question he was complexed by.

So very many things wrong with this sentence.

Newton was wrong.

Happy?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious what you must think about Sir Isaac Newton. Arguably the greatest mind the world has ever seen. One of the most prominent and influential scientists and mathematicians the world has ever seen. Created calculus on a dare in order to answer a question he was complexed by. Let's see what one of the greatest minds, most notably scientifically and logically,(the very things you poor lowly atheists claim to adhere to), has to say about God.

Newton also wasted years on alchemy before (presumably) realizing it was all fantasy. Do you honestly think an intelligent man (1643 - 1727) beliefs in anyway proves the existence of God? Very weak stuff.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by GODPARTICLE [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like when stupid atheists are like where's the proof for God's existence I'm like any fix your brain to recognize any of your senses because existence of anything is existence of God and is proof DUh

The funny part about this post is he actually begins by calling other people stupid.

[GODPARTICLE]

ok so what is scientific explanation on the origin of existence?

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by GODPARTICLE [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok so what is scientific explanation on the origin of existence?

A lot of peoples assumption has a lot to do with Evolution which is surprisingly funny, because the time it would take for us to evolve cant really be explained anyways since it would take so long for something like that to happen no one would ever be around to see it. I mean hell, like in our other thread, people already have hard enough time validating/not validation the bible which is only a few thousand years ago. Also, science shows that the structure of the bones in birds are almost similar to humans, does that mean we came from birds? Now, adaption is entirely possible, but the assumption that I will one day grow wings and fly away because its required for my race to survive is stupid.

[Reapin]

We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

[youtube]We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eqKb5ViN_Q

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Reapin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

[youtube]We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eqKb5ViN_Q

will pray for your immortal soul

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

will pray for your immortal soul

Is this the same immortal soul that God created perfectly that he decided to test anyway for imperfections, giving it free will and sending it to hell when it exercises that free will by not doing exactly what he wanted it to do in the first place?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this the same immortal soul that God created perfectly that he decided to test anyway for imperfections, giving it free will and sending it to hell when it exercises that free will by not doing exactly what he wanted it to do in the first place?

yes that is the one

[Eliseus]

I'm more curious as to why the assumption God doesn't exist because science was able to prove things like the "Big Bang." Just because science has proved something does that mean God didn't create it or doesn't still make it miraculous? I also think people under the assumption that acts of randomness for such perfect things like the human body is absurd. I mean look at the thriving striving creation that has the ability to create more life. People really assume that this was random? That somehow all the stars aligned in the universe at precisely the perfect moment to somehow allow man and woman to be made, not only that but this random act also created an even more random act of allowing man/woman to reproduce with each other?

Now of course this doesn't necessarily say that the "God" that is believed in exists, and like he mentions may be "dead", but, either God does exist or a higher power definitely exists in some for somewhere that created what we know.

I mean, if you read the news, since 4years ago when NASA launched Kepler, they have found 2,700 possible planets orbiting stars other than our Sun, and 100 of those have been confirmed Earth like planets. This in itself should be proof at the possibility of a more powerful race maybe then ours, Gods maybe? Now, if you think that we never traveled to the moon or into space along with God not existing, I don't think there is any hope for you people at all lol.

I personally believe in God and Jesus Christ, but even without them, I would believe in a higher power or more advanced race somewhere that is the reason we are on this Earth.