Lime the prophet

[Tradesonred]

Predicted like 2 weeks after launch server would tank because of xp loss, 90% of forum was telling me to shut up, cant be bothered to look for/remember my old banned forum name.

Mostly holocaust, because they enjoyed griefing people off the server and the advantage it gave em through zerging, and Nihilum later on, because of the advantage it gave em through zerging.

It was obvious it was going to happen, and transparent why Holos and Nihis didnt want the mechanic to go.

[HeisChuck]

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[Faerie Blossom]

Oh stop being such drama queens.

[compulsion]

It's unfortunate that we have so much dedication to keeping the box free of cheat programs, which Sony never cared about at all, and yet no attempt to make a PvP server with worthwhile PvP. Constant talk about getting new players to the server, yet 58+ players quit and sell their accounts because they came for the PvP and the PvP turned out to be crap.

1. No need to re list the multitude of gamebreaking bugs which are simply ignored despite a mountain of evidence.

2. Resist code which requires BiS gear, much of it coming from raid zones, to even start to enjoy your character. And even if you do have it, you are just a couple golem wand charges away from being dead or forced to gate.

3. Even if you are near BiS there is a solid chance that your PvP will be completely ruined by bad RNG.

4. A very large % of the most active players on this server will use IP exemptions to quit out in 5-8 seconds at the first sign of PvP.

Every other week when I get bored and log in for an Azrael raid, I see new faces. The people who I leveled with have all quit and sold or are inactive. In a few months, the ones playing now will have done the same thing. Tons of people have invested time here because they want to play on a RED server again, only to quit in disappointment or app Nihilum when they realize that the only thing left that might be fun is farming raid bosses.

tl;dr This isn't EQ PvP just because it says EQ on the loading screen. Don't expect a diverse and active population in what has been reduced to a completely one dimensional game. Hell, with invis pulling single bosses half way across zones with pacify through walls, even the regular PvE is boring.

[Shrubwise]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh stop being such drama queens.

[Jenni D]

It is what you make of it.

Just try enjoy the ride. if you quit, journey safe into the afterlife pals.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by compulsion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tl;dr This isn't EQ PvP just because it says EQ on the loading screen. Don't expect a diverse and active population in what has been reduced to a completely one dimensional game. Hell, with invis pulling single bosses half way across zones with pacify through walls, even the regular PvE is boring.

Could easily be salvaged if we can get Rogean/other devs to give more of a fuck again. With the majority of the sociopaths gone or lurking, could happen?

- remove xp loss in pvp

- some sort of xp gain bump to repopulate server that lost half its pop a couple months ago when xp gain was axed. Xp gain axing wouldnt be so bad on a 200+ pop server where people were having fun pvping, but both the axe and xp loss in pvp at the same time crippled it.

- better resists

- profit

lol shrub is the hardcorererest of the hardcore

Gonna end up sinking with the boat like a captain, dueling with Big chewie

[Nuk3Afr1ca]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, but that guy's crazy. Claiming that no teams will ruin the server while advocating training is just silly :P

The client is hardcoded so you have to choose either TZ, RZ, or SZ ruleset and I don't really believe in rules that can't be hardcoded into the client.

[Shrubwise]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol shrub is the hardcorererest of the hardcore

Aww, thanks. Chewie would win, though.

I've taken my own 3-or so month hiatus here and there. Sometimes I just didn't feel like playing, and I quit. The only difference is, now, it feels like every person who quits these days, feels like they need to make a post about it. A typical quitter's reasoning:

-Pop is too low, server sucks.
-Nihilum is too strong, server sucks.
-The PvP here does not meet my requirements, server sucks.
-No yellow text? Server sucks.
-Exp loss on PvP death? Server sucks.

What we forget is that at some point, the server didn't suck. At some point we felt like it was worth the time sink, worth the no YT, etc. etc. And then, you get tired and stop playing. No need to talk shit about the server; be mature, realize that you're done (for whatever period of time) and take a break.

I love this server. I love classic EQ, been around since the server opened. I joined blue within the first hour, the highest char on / who all was level 3. I've quit here and there, but I always understood it wasn't the server's fault. You won't find any ragequit posts by me.

Threads like this I just /rolleyes. It's the same old story. Haters gonna hate. But aye I am going down with this ship. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[reddi lol]

Originally Posted by Lime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic pvp was actually pretty fun. Current spellfile make everything terrible.

Classic pvp people actually jousted and a well organized group actually had a chance to outplay a larger force simply due to the fact that you could kite people around, and 5 people chasing 1 person might not land a kill with inability to cc the target as well as nukes resisting on someone with high resists.

Here pvp is decided by 18 second t-staff/skean which always seems to proc in the first combat round as well as highsun spam perma disabling someone, root/snare/stun/blind landing on 300 mr on the first or second cast, wizards pillaring you from out of visible target range in 2.5 seconds, mage pets landing nonstop stuns and roots on you, and rogues/monks bursting 300+ dps onto golem wanded casters with 1200 hp, and nuking classes landing full damage nukes on 160+ resists 70%+ of the time.

People just get blown up and since damage is so high all the cc that is landing that shouldn't be landing is a death sentence to anyone.

The lack of attention to these major issues for months is main reason people don't log in anymore, among other reasons...such as the experience penalty crushing sub 60 players and doing almost nothing to a level 60 who will dip below 100 % into 60 for a day or two.

Killing good players isn't even an accomplishment with current pvp implementation.