Chest, before calling someone a thief, be sure you don't let your own guild down 1st.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

chest calling someone else a piece of shit...the irony!

Like you have very much room to judge anyone's character. Pretending you are decent and being decent is 2 different things. Trying to distract from the point that people in your guild (including yourself) are socially inept to actually do the right thing when it needs to be done shows the farce that is FE and their "Saviors of the Server" image you guys tried to cultivate. Smart people saw who was in the guild (this includes you) and knew it was a sham. No offense play the game as you wish. Just understand some people see the BS and hypocrisy.

[Cecily]

No! I literally just said we didn't try.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like you have very much room to judge anyone's character. Pretending you are decent and being decent is 2 different things. Trying to distract from the point that people in your guild (including yourself) are socially inept to actually do the right thing when it needs to be done shows the farce that is FE and their "Saviors of the Server" image you guys tried to cultivate. Smart people saw who was in the guild (this includes you) and knew it was a sham. No offense play the game as you wish. Just understand some people see the BS and hypocrisy.

I do have room to judge character. I don't do anything in game that I would consider rants & flames worthy. I actually go out of my way to help people all the time, if anything. This inny eye has nothing to do with me or the majority of the guild, but people like you and chest are making it into a guild issue when in reality it involves two people.
Chest posting about how BDA doesnt' allow in these type of people etc etc etc is a joke. Chest himself is one of the biggest hypocrites I've encountered on this server. When BDA was actually getting raid targets an probably the #2 guild on server he comes up to a divinity raid and starts pulling mobs down from the isle above us while knowing we were heading up there as soon as we are done with bees. When we finished and got to 7 he continued to pull mobs by us with no regard. Sounds like someone trying to make the server a better place for sure! I have no problem with bda as a whole and don't let the actions of chest and whoever folopak was taint my perception of the guild.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like you have very much room to judge anyone's character. Pretending you are decent and being decent is 2 different things. Trying to distract from the point that people in your guild (including yourself) are socially inept to actually do the right thing when it needs to be done shows the farce that is FE and their "Saviors of the Server" image you guys tried to cultivate. Smart people saw who was in the guild (this includes you) and knew it was a sham. No offense play the game as you wish. Just understand some people see the BS and hypocrisy.

Ya, TMO farming the server and selling MQs for 700k was any better amirite ? Using fast switches, all possible exploits in VP for one sake : cockblock, that's better lol ?

No guilds are all black and white. TMO has a very long history on this server, guild suspensions, members suspensions, members banned for MQ, members caught 2 boxing, members caught RMT'ing, members caught training and suchies and suchies.

We just give the opportunity to raid and not be part of TMO, call it what ever you want, no raiding guild on this server is going to be saviors, the objective of FE is beating TMO, the objective of TMO is staying on top. You're part of TMO you have your point of view, piggy backing is a gameplay I guess, I mean I don't blame you, I was in TR, It was fun for a while killing everything without competition, for 1 month, or so...

the BDA/FE split caused and still causes a lot of drama, I wasn't in BDA so I can't tell, but apparently FE was formed because Chest was an absolutely piece of shit when it came to dialogue and sharing points of view. He's just proving it once again with the eye drama.

Also who is socially inept to do the right thing? Where were you when your guildie Aiaus was blatantly caught fast switching which is an exploit, did you "socially" did the right thing and posted in RnF to demand his guildboot ?

Come on pal, cut the crap, you're full of shit lol.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do have room to judge character. I don't do anything in game that I would consider rants & flames worthy. I actually go out of my way to help people all the time, if anything. This inny eye has nothing to do with me or the majority of the guild, but people like you and chest are making it into a guild issue when in reality it involves two people.
Chest posting about how BDA doesnt' allow in these type of people etc etc etc is a joke. Chest himself is one of the biggest hypocrites I've encountered on this server. When BDA was actually getting raid targets an probably the #2 guild on server he comes up to a divinity raid and starts pulling mobs down from the isle above us while knowing we were heading up there as soon as we are done with bees. When we finished and got to 7 he continued to pull mobs by us with no regard. Sounds like someone trying to make the server a better place for sure! I have no problem with bda as a whole and don't let the actions of chest and whoever folopak was taint my perception of the guild.

Oh there have been several times you have done things that are Rants and Flames worthy. Some of us don't run here with it every time we encounter someone being a douche such as yourself. There is a running joke about you though about how you massively overrate your importance.... How you have an image of yourself that doesn't quite meet reality.... And by "quite meet" I mean not at all. I am sure more than people I hang around sees it too. It is worth a good laugh every time you post as a white knight though. I imagine that yes in your own mind you are a saint and a Pillar of the community. But every time I see you in game somewhere you seem to always be acting like a douche in one form or another.


I am not defending Chest FYI barely know the guy. Just the actions in particular... Visceral trying to support Slydexx's actions in this situation at all shows the lack of character that one of your new "Officers" possesses. You trying to call out Chest to distract that point is what I am seeing here. Trying to say it is not a reflection on FE is just stupid. The fact that the guy is in your guild and someone from your guild benefited from it ...and your guild continues to harbor him is a direct reflection on your guild. But hey to each their own.

[Alawen]

I'd like to thank all of you for this early birthday present--the biggest asswipes on the server throwing shit at each other. I don't think pointing at TMO is going to get you out of this one, Visceral. Your useless necro epic probably isn't going to help topple the evil empire.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the BDA/FE split caused and still causes a lot of drama, I wasn't in BDA so I can't tell, but apparently FE was formed because Chest was an absolutely piece of shit when it came to dialogue and sharing points of view. He's just proving it once again with the eye drama.

You're an idiot. FE was formed because the BDA leadership had no interest in kowtowing to a small group of people within BDA that demanded we implement DKP and fight fire with fire against TMO. Those who supported the "hardcore" playstyle left and formed FE, and those who wished to remain committed to the BDA playstyle remained.

You can keep calling my rep into question and calling me names but that's not going to make anything you say true. As the red players would say my whistle is clean. Yours however is dirty as fuck. It you want to refund an eye of innoruuk to BDA you know where to find me you piece if shit.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya, TMO farming the server and selling MQs for 700k was any better amirite ? Using fast switches, all possible exploits in VP for one sake : cockblock, that's better lol ?

No guilds are all black and white. TMO has a very long history on this server, guild suspensions, members suspensions, members banned for MQ, members caught 2 boxing, members caught RMT'ing, members caught training and suchies and suchies.

We just give the opportunity to raid and not be part of TMO, call it what ever you want, no raiding guild on this server is going to be saviors, the objective of FE is beating TMO, the objective of TMO is staying on top. You're part of TMO you have your point of view, piggy backing is a gameplay I guess, I mean I don't blame you, I was in TR, It was fun for a while killing everything without competition, for 1 month, or so...

the BDA/FE split caused and still causes a lot of drama, I wasn't in BDA so I can't tell, but apparently FE was formed because Chest was an absolutely piece of shit when it came to dialogue and sharing points of view. He's just proving it once again with the eye drama.

Also who is socially inept to do the right thing? Where were you when your guildie Aiaus was blatantly caught fast switching which is an exploit, did you "socially" did the right thing and posted in RnF to demand his guildboot ?

Come on pal, cut the crap, you're full of shit lol.

Why don't you cut the crap and pay BDA for the eye. You benefited from it. Make recompense for it. Don't try to spin it off as "Well I didn't know or I wouldn't have" and then later come back and say "See Chest really didn't care either". Don't tell someone to cut the crap when all you are typing in response is diatribe to support the actions of someone doing something wrong and you benefiting from it. Set an example and do the right thing that you always preach about.

It is funny watching you post though saying all the things people want to hear or you think they want to hear. But when an actual moral dilemma shows up to show your character your only reaction is to support the action that you benefited from by saying "See he didn't really care about it". If you are going to take a moral high ground in every other situation on these forums then do the morally correct thing and pay BDA for it. Don't try to blame it on FE/BDA drama as an excuse for why it happened. Make it right and show you have the character you preach.







We know that won't happen though =)

[Skope]

I'm trying to understand what the hell's going on, but all I see is a bunch of idiots yapping off with little sense being thrown about.

- A player being a douchebag doesn't justify someone stealing from a guild bank.

- Personal quarrels aren't enough for you to paint an entire guild with the same brush.

- A "whatever then" response doesn't mean they don't care, it just means "whatever then."

- No amount of hate stones can pay for something like that. Secondly, if you need stone money, ask for stone money.

- Don't give guild bank access to d-bags.

Additionally, I think it's kind of funny seeing Alawen take the high road here. I say it's funny because he'll be the first one to ignore a wrongdoing provided it benefits him in the end.

Alawen, do let us know when you've actually got a conscience rather than bragging about how you've got such a conscience. Some of us date back a bit further than last week [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh there have been several times you have done things that are Rants and Flames worthy. Some of us don't run here with it every time we encounter someone being a douche such as yourself. There is a running joke about you though about how you massively overrate your importance.... How you have an image of yourself that doesn't quite meet reality.... And by "quite meet" I mean not at all. I am sure more than people I hang around sees it too. It is worth a good laugh every time you post as a white knight though. I imagine that yes in your own mind you are a saint and a Pillar of the community. But every time I see you in game somewhere you seem to always be acting like a douche in one form or another.

List one thing rants worthy i've done....

I also don't post as a white knight I just don't hesitate to call out people for being hypocrites when I see it (chest).

You never seen me in game so keep reaching. Aren't you some new tmo member who was added to bolster their numbers?