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Old 03-13-2013, 03:38 PM
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quotes from Loraen's link:

"Dictate (Up to Level 58) - *48 Seconds on the Soapbox remaining before the rotten tomatoes incoming*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 48 Seconds Fixed"

"Many Enchanters wonder about the why the fixed duration Dictate spell was even added. While the situations for its use are very limited, there are a few places this spell can be useful. The most noteworthy is Kael. The high level giants (55+) there are immune to all forms of Mez, but are still flagged as charmable. Dictate can be used in this situation as a 48 second crowd control spell. However, this spell outlived its usefulness back during Scars of Velious, and with the addition of the newer high level charms it has gone the way of the Dodo bird. Though, “Frozen Moses” and Sirran the Lunatic owned many a mob for the resourceful and daring back in the days of Velious. Ahhhh the memories of solo farming Shields' of the Void! But I digress, back to the guide. /wave Salidor"

"The Charm Line
In the high level zones, the PoP spell lineup (lvl 61+) given to chanters is extremely powerful for charm soloing. The key spells being Arcane Rune, Word of Morrell, and our new Charms. The selection in the lower level spells for charming are a little more limited, but still effective."

All his information is based on Planes of Power time line, not classic, so not sure about it being relevant here (except that sirran was supposedly charmable during velious).
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:14 PM
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Sirran was bard charmed. Why don't any of the other guides I linked say "dictate" or "charm" Sirran? And they say to dictate/charm the other NPCs up there? Hm?


http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/bard_charm.php

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All it took was a few gods getting charmed by bards for the nerf hammer to come down, and bard charm was changed to cap at 51. 51 was definitely the best cap pre-kunark, because so many encounters were designed assuming that cap existed. Having a higher cap made some of the toughest encounters at the time (PoS, etc.) easy.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:42 PM
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GOD DAMN IT THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT FUCKING SIRRAN THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT DICTATE NOT HAVING A LEVEL REQUIREMENT WHEN I BELIEVE IT SHOULD
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:15 PM
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Nirgon what does your spell database say about dictate?

P.S. I just posted a guide that says sirran was charmable. If you choose to ignore it thats up to you, but don't think the rest of us are idiots. I want it nerfed for balance reasons, not because it wasn't classic.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:20 PM
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Hi, this is the Sirran thread: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ghlight=sirran

this is the thread about dictate working on mobs above level 58
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:55 PM
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It was 58, cool your jets turbo
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:16 PM
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It was 58, cool your jets turbo
is this from your spell database?
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:26 PM
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sirran should NOT be charmable

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Old 04-20-2013, 05:09 PM
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http://web.archive.org/web/200107251...ell.asp?Id=171

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This charm spell has a cap of level 58. Level 59 and higher targets cannot be charmed with this spell.
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Allure has a level cap of 50. Dictate has a level cap of 58. Anything above level 50, especially something level 58, can deal a ton more damage in the 48 seconds than almost any level 50 creature can deal in a few minutes.
Capped at 58, pending update.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:18 PM
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That same guy also thinks Allure has a level cap of 50.

Also at some point Dictate was changed to 48 seconds (from 30). When was that?
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