Raid changes (again)

[August]

I don't know what is good for the server but I can tell you what has happened for me.

I rolled here as my favorite class, enchanter, and was pretty optimistic about being able to enjoy the end game. I took my time leveling and had a lot of fun. When I first started here (ignore my join date - i expressed interest about 2 years ago and had a life event that prevented me from playing) there were about 500 people online at peak hours.

Roll forward 3 months and I'm level 54. There's about 1k people on, and I app to join FE. In my interview, I state that it is imperative for me that I am not involved in any poopsocking.

See, I played on Fippy (and Combine, and EQMac, and Live, but that's another story) - was, in fact, a personality there. I got to max level on Fippy and began to realize my only option was to poopsock. I couldn't justify to my wife the time I was spending on EQ when i was literally sitting in permafrost/seb/what have you waiting for a mob to spawn.

So I quit Fippy. I left behind an empire of platinum and tradeskill mastery because there wasn't anything for me to do - i didn't have the best gear, i hadn't hit all the raid targets, but it was so trivialized by 150 people sitting on spawn that it wasn't worth it.

Where was I? oh ya, in my FE interview I said I wouldn't participate in poopsocking and was told that that didn't happen on this server.

Two weeks later and all the guild messages were about parking your 'raiding alt' at one spot and parking your main somewhere else. We get to 12 hours and a sock starts - we're at Fippy Darkpaw level.

So I quit here, too. I'm not gone for good, but I haven't logged on in several weeks and feel no incentive to do so. I don't know what can fix the server, but I know that right now it feels unhealthy, and it felt like nothing was being done about it. I want Velious to come out as well but I'm not stupid enough to complain about it - it's a free service after all.

Also if you read this and you know me in game no you can't have my money cuz what's mines is mines.

-Tomtee

[Silo69]

fte shouts are NOT classic

if there gonna remove shit like target rings, and give you specific end game shit because the server is after 3 years saturated with lvl capped players... TOOO FUKING BAD

its not classic

go outside

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Silo69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fte shouts are NOT classic

Variance was put in supposedly to relieve stress on GMs. Right now, GMs raid disputes are mostly about "who got FTE?" If we can put in a system that removes GM requirements for the most common raid dispute to relieve stressed GMs, we are making a non-classic change that fulfills the initial intentions of variance.

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah so you are saying he DID patch it in he just decided to ninja patch it? I don't see that.

As for the last two repops, they happened at 8AM sunday morning and 3PM Tuesday evening. Obviously casual guilds are not going to do well at those times. Plus, its going to take a while. We can see the process with FE: they started out missing everything and now they are basically going toe to toe with TMO. It just takes a while to get in practice and get resist gear and so on.

Full server respawns have to be initiated by Server staff, the database maintains an accurate "next spawn time", even when the server crashes. So when a full server respawn happens, someone either flipped a switch somewhere or added code to automatically flip the switch. Therefore we know the last two full respawns were intentional, and they were within a week of each other, at different times of day. My guess is they were testing the limits of the "reasonable hours" Rogean mentions. One of the respawns early afternoon for US weekday (3pm EST, noon PST), the other was 8:30AM EST on a US Sunday, 5:30AM PST. Assuming server staff haven't completely disregarded the system and are still pursuing it, I foresee tests on the other end of the spectrum as well in the future (sometime around 12AM EST US weeknight and 3AM EST US weekend). Or they may simply take population snapshots at these hours and forego actual respawn events.

I'd like a month period of testing out the FTE mechanic, that'd be a fantastic change. I personally think its easier to implement than full server respawns, but I know little about the server end of EQ.

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by Silo69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fte shouts are NOT classic

if there gonna remove shit like target rings, and give you specific end game shit because the server is after 3 years saturated with lvl capped players... TOOO FUKING BAD

its not classic

go outside

implying variance is good for anyone besides the slackest of jaws

[melkezidek]

They should really make it so that on a FULL REPOP that its not everything at once. Say If server is reset it starts counters going with in a say 5 hours window? That way it forces people to move around and actually track mobs not just work down a list.

[skorge]

i don't get why people don't just share here, im not the hardcore raiding type but this is one of the reason's why...server would be much better if a rotation would be worked in and even guilds like Full Circle could get an occasional raid kill in....

oh yea, i do know why, its call GREED and it's a problem with this server

[melkezidek]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its call GREED and it's a problem with this server

Sadly this is the problem with the world today and not just the server.

[Karafa]

Velious + force /guildwar between the top 2-3 guilds.

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by melkezidek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sadly this is the problem with the world today and not just the server.

You added nothing to what he said.

[Jokesteve]

Casuals bitched in 1999, and casuals will bitch here.

The only thing preventing your casual guilds from awesomeness is yourselves. You can point the finger at the staff, the players, the top guilds all you want it does not change the fact that if you want it bad enough, you'll do what it takes.

Socking, leapfrogging, contesting over raid targets happened in classic.

Shit is classic.